This is why DWade vs Kyrie doesn't make sense

[kuts]

transition isn't the end all be all of offense
he can become even more explosive just consistently killing getting buckets the way he does
like i said he has 5+ years of prime ahead of him to takeover as the primary offensive threat

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I actually disagree, transition offense allows you to take a man one-on-one and get to the rim while having the advantage. It allows you to have unlimited freedom as the offensive player. Just imagine what you can do going at a guy one-on-one in transition, now imaging having LeBron/Wade running with you. The defender(s) is/are completetly helpless to your attack.

 

[Malta]

Is that a reflection on Lebron or do his teams tend to run a slower pace because in isolation Lebron can beat just about every player in the league?

It's a bi-product of LeBrons game and how he runs the offense, he controls the pace of games. He'll run when he has the opportunity but he doesn't always push the pace and prefers to play a slower game.

 

[Remote]

when I saw those dunks live on tv I my family was at my house for christmas and I literally shouted out JESUS CHRIST for both of them

my mama gave me the

Hahaha!

 

[010101]

I actually disagree, transition offense allows you to take a man one-on-one and get to the rim while having the advantage. It allows you to have unlimited freedom as the offensive player. Just imagine what you can do going at a guy one-on-one in transition, now imaging having LeBron/Wade running with you. The defender(s) is/are completetly helpless to your attack.

you can't count on that for reliable offense though
transition opportunities ain't coming in abundance against real top shelf squads
get your ass surgically dismantled that way

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[BigTyme Records]

Well 11 wade >>> any kyrie

But who y'all think better 15- current kyrie or 12-14 wade? I'm leaning kyrie

 

[010101]

kill your legs with all that running and jumping you bout to fastbreak your way to the i.r muahahahahaa*

 

[killacal]

it was soooo lit.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

And yet, the Cavs teams have had better offensive ratings than those Heat squads.

The Heat didn't play at a fast pace either, biggest misconception about LeBron is that he's some fast breaking player, when in actuality his teams are almost always among the slowest paced squads in the league.

I'd guess that's more a product of how many 3's the cavaliers shoot. Those 4 heat teams took 18, 15.6, 22, and 22.3 threes per game. The last 3 cavaliers teams have taken 27.5, 29.4, and 34 threes per game. That adds up quickly.

 

[kuts]

And yet, the Cavs teams have had better offensive ratings than those Heat squads.

The Heat didn't play at a fast pace either, biggest misconception about LeBron is that he's some fast breaking player, when in actuality his teams are almost always among the slowest paced squads in the league.

He is a fast-breaking player, just like Ronaldo is a counter-attacking player in soccer. Can they play traditional offense? Sure, but they play at their best when they can utilize space and limited defenders to attack. LeBron was able to realize his full potential by playing with DWade. With Kyrie he is able to allow a young cat with pride and ego (not a bad thing) to take the game over by himself. Kyrie excels in the iso when we all know that LeBron likes teamplay, particualry a secondary star to feed off of.

 

[kuts]

Were you in Miami during that time? Were you not entertained?

 

[The God Poster]

Is Kyrie even top 15 at his position all time

Y'all nikkas talking out ya neck...this cavs team ain't never looked as deep at the Heatles despite being deeper.

 

[Malta]

He is a fast-breaking player, just like Ronaldo is a counter-attacking player in soccer. Can they play traditional offense? Sure, but they play at their best when they can utilize space and limited defenders to attack. LeBron was able to realize his full potential by playing with DWade. With Kyrie he is able to allow a young cat with pride and ego (not a bad thing) to take the game over by himself. Kyrie excels in the iso when we all know that LeBron likes teamplay, particualry a secondary star to feed off of.

Nope, Bron is not a counter attack player, the vast majority of his scoring comes in the halfcourt. The reason Kyrie/LeBron compliment each other is because of the fact Kyrie can play off the ball and act as a floor spacer which is something Wade couldn't do. Wade and LeBrons' games were too similar, they won off the sheer strength of talent, not because they could truly play off one another.


This Cavs team has a historically great offense, you can talk about this that and the third, but this Cavs offense has been better.

 

[kuts]

you can't count on that for reliable offense though
transition opportunities ain't coming in abundance against real top shelf squads
get your ass surgically dismantled that way

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Unless the players running the floor also can run iso, picks, plus play off each other. This ain't a magic trick, the transition offense flows from their ability to run it plus score in the half-court set.

 

[Malta]

Is Kyrie even top 15 at his position all time

Y'all nikkas talking out ya neck...this cavs team ain't never looked as deep at the Heatles despite being deeper.

Beloved, why are yall incapable of separating things? Like it's pretty obvious Wade is the better player, but Kyrie is the better fit because of his jumper.

Being a better fit doesn't mean you're a better player.

 

[SadimirPutin]

at one point people argued whether wade and james had redundant skillsets.......wing slashers who were both good playmakers

and we can actually argue that the heat didnt find out who they were until that indiana series when bosh got injured and wade also was playing hurt for Miami to become a smallball defensive blitzing machine