This is why the "LeBron needs help" narrative is total garbage & nothing but an excuse

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There will never be enough help for LeBron. In order for him to get those pretty 35 point, 15 rebound, 17 assist stat lines, he has to have the ball in his hand 95% of the game. You gotta pick one nikka. Either you have 35 points, and let the point guard swing the ball around the court to other players. The Jordan Model. Or you have the 17 assists and you swing the ball around to other players. The John Stockton/Magic Model. You can't do both :martin: This takes players out the game, they have no touches, they standing around, there's no offense running, they not getting into rhythm, you try to set up a bullshyt assist with 3 seconds on the clock, and when LeBron sits down there's no plays they can run off memory to get other guys going. Stop it.

If you get LeBron superstar players, they'll start looking like their regressing with him (Bosh, Kevin Love), because they aint getting no touches and playing out of position. If you get LeBron new young talent, they not gonna grow like they should. Because there's no offense being ran and they aint getting no touches. The only way LeBron gets a winning team, and the pretty dominating stats that he wants, is if you set him up with three 3-point shooters and a stretch four/five that's more KG/Dirk/Bosh than Shaq. So he can attack the hole and kick out to all his shooters for threes. And that's sad. That's literally the only team set up that works with him.

Lmao this makes no sense. He passes the ball the dudes brick the shot and then you’ll make a post saying he too passive.

Shut your dumb ass up!
 

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Lmao this makes no sense. He passes the ball the dudes brick the shot and then you’ll make a post saying he too passive.

Shut your dumb ass up!

Shut your dumb surface level thinking ass up, you fukking fakkit.

When you played.....never mind...your bytchass couldn't ball :russ:.....when everyone else played basketball growing up, NOBODY liked playing with a nikka who held on the ball for 95% of the game, and ONLY tried to pass when he couldn't score. NOBODY. Everybody wanna get a chance to dribble, make their plays and get buckets. To feel like they're playing. Nobody wants to stand at the top of the key for a whole quarter watching one nikka dribble, drive and shoot, and know they only getting the ball when he can't make a bucket. NOBODY.
 

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It’s an excuse yet Lebron had 26 which is more than the rest of the starters combined who had 24.

Please genius show me one game in every finals that MJ and Kobe played where kobe and MJ scored more points then the entire starting crew and won a title.

Dumb post as always lol.

When it comes to Lebron all of a sudden basketball is no longer a team sport :russ:
unno. Maybe b/c Kobe and Jordan let their point guards be point guards, and let their post guys be post guys, which if you watch any Cavs games they don't do....LeBron and Bron ball doesn't allow that......Their offense is based around what LeBron wants to do offensively....which is pretty much set picks for Bron to get his shots off or drive to the basket and when the double comes, he kicks out to jump shooters....Bron is a superb athlete but his and the Cavs style of basketball is NOT conducive to winning, Dufus
 
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Shut your dumb surface level thinking ass up, you fukking fakkit.

When you played.....never mind...your bytchass couldn't ball :russ:.....when everyone else played basketball growing up, NOBODY liked playing with a nikka who held on the ball for 95% of the game, and ONLY tried to pass when he couldn't score. NOBODY. Everybody wanna get a chance to dribble, make their plays and get buckets. To feel like they're playing. Nobody wants to stand at the top of the key for a whole quarter watching one nikka dribble, drive and shoot, and know they only getting the ball when he can't make a bucket. NOBODY.

Lmao you basically said the same thing over except you sound even more gay.

Lol Lebron has higher a assist avg than MJ and Kobe. Hold this L :mjlol:


Only a lame who just started watching ball yesterday would try the foolishness of calling Lebron a ball hog lmao!
 

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unno. Maybe b/c Kobe and LeBron let their point guards be point guards, and let their post guys be post guys, which if you watch any Cavs games they don't do....LeBron and Bron ball doesn't allow that......Their offense is based around what LeBron wants to do offensively....which is pretty much set picks for Bron to get his shots off or drive to the basket and when the double comes, he kicks out to jump shooters....Bron is a superb athlete but his and the Cavs style of basketball if NOT conducive to winning, Dufus

Um Kobe was a ball hog who averages less assist than Lebron while Lebron is capable of playing any position.

I’m not even about to even argue this point. Stop talking ball!

But I like how you had no clear example of what I asked :mjlol:
 

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It wouldn't even be a fair fight :mjlol:

Uncle Shay would roast that nikka so mercilessly :russ:

"Now J Dubb...if you don't mind me asking, what was all that bulljive you was talkin bout Bron's conditioning?" :jbhmm:

"Like I said, Shannon, he's lethargic in the 4th quarter. That's when the Cavs need him most!" :martin:

"Just for the people at home, could you tell em how many city blocks you can walk before you sweat through that suit?" :troll:

"Cause you know me Joy! I can't be sweatin through no custom suit! I spent good money on this thang right here!" :win:

"Shannon...Shannon...That has nothing to do with what we're discussing right now." :to:

"See Joy, I made it easy for him. I'm goin EASY on J Dubb today. I asked him how far he could walk...I don't need him to run, just shuffle his feet on the pavement a little bit" :pachaha:

:mjlol::mjlol:
 

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Um Kobe was a ball hog who averages less assist than Lebron while Lebron is capable of playing any position.

I’m not even about to even argue this point. Stop talking ball!

But I like how you had no clear example of what I asked :mjlol:
RWB averages more assists than bron but you'd be a damn fool to think he actually makes his team or teammates better...stop stat watching fanboy and learn to watch the game holistically
 

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A thread full of nikkas who can't count. :russ:

I'd be tight if my team has to wait 10 years to go to the finals because of one man and soley because of him:wow:
 

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Love had 4 points after the first quarter and aside from James the rest of the team scored 57 points total including the points he assisted on. That’s just pitiful. Said it a few times already, but this is clearly the worst roster in the playoffs if you subtract each playoff team’s best player. Most of the playoffs, their second best player has been a 37 year old white dude who doesn’t dribble, pass, or defend well. Not sure much more explanation is needed.
Love has been solid. They just don't know how to utilize him. Dude was looking like Shaq against Toronto, until they stopped feeding him and Toronto made that run, and LeBron hit the game winner. Against Boston, they're playing him all wrong. He's stuck in the corner shooting 3's. This is easily the worst Cleveland roster in 4yrs, but they're not THAT bad to be getting whooped by a baby Celtics teams. This has more to do with the difference in coaching, moreso than the difference in talent. All these Cavs players were playing exceptional against a Toronto team that's deeper and more talented Boston. Not to mention this the same Boston squad that struggled against Milwaukee a bit. The talent disparity between this Cavs team and this Boston team isn't much. It comes down to coaching and lack of utilization. Why not play Klove in the post more and run the offense through him when LeBron is tired, ala Game 3 against Toronto when they went up 17 behind Klove destroying them? Klove isn't a bum by any means. This cavs team isn't completely talentless.
 

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When has any player's fanbase ever said "my guy had enough to win but he fukked up"? It doesn't happen.

Its not a LeBron excuse. He is just the only player who ever received this much blame and criticism for not winning a championship every year.

People criticize LeBron because of his lukewarm mental toughness. His stans praise LeBron as if mental toughness doesn't matter in determining someone's place on the pantheon.
 

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People criticize LeBron because of his lukewarm mental toughness. His stans praise LeBron as if mental toughness doesn't matter in determining someone's place on the pantheon.
Those criticisms are still living in 2011. They simply don't like him.
 
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