This whole Kobe only really has 2 rings narrative has to stop.

[ThugLife]

We dont give a fukk about Kobe

 

[Street Knowledge]

Even if they don't "count" his playoff record post shaq rivals if not bests many all time greats


2006-2012 Playoffs( didnt play in 2013)

2-1 Finals Record=67%
13-5 Series W/L Record=72%
12-1 record with home court advantage=92%
10-4 Record against 50 win teams=71%

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Kobe has 5 rings. Pippen has 6 and Horry has 7. Lots of people have rings.

But it's Finals MVP's that separate the greats. How many of those Kobe got?

 

[GreatestLaker]

Kobe has 5 rings. Pippen has 6 and Horry has 7. Lots of people have rings.

But it's Finals MVP's that separate the greats. How many of those Kobe got?

Yup the all time greats like Cedric Maxwell, James Worthy, Joe Dumars, Dennis Johnson, Tony Parker, Paul Pierce and Chancey Billups.

Holy Grail of Basketball

 

[charmander]

the insecurity in this thread is baniddles

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Lol@these Kobe stans scrambling to make panicked threads about him because they can't bear his current irrelevance.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yup the all time greats like Cedric Maxwell, James Worthy, Joe Dumars, Dennis Johnson, Tony Parker, Paul Pierce and Chancey Billups.

Holy Grail of Basketball

"Separates the greats", as when comparing the greats, we're looking at Finals MVP's. None of those guys are among the all time greats.

Nice try though. Now please put the goal post back, football season is about to start.

 

[kingofnyc]

Kobe's playoff averages during 2000-2002 3-peat: 25.3 PPG (on 45 FG%), 5.7 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1.1 BPG

He was 21-23 years old during this run. And had to share the ball with a behemouth of a man who is considered unanimous top 10 player of all-time. 25/6/5 don't look like the stats of a guy who rode someone's coattails to a championship. ***cough D-Wade*** The only legitimate season you could say Kobe was a second fiddle was 99-00. 21.1 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 4.4 APG. Those are sidekick numbers. A damn good one but sidekick D-Wade type numbers. Kobe's stats during 2001 and 2002 were not second fiddle, sidekick numbers. They were SUPERSTAR #1 option type stats.

2001 Playoffs: 29.4 PPG (on 47 FG%), 7.3 RPG, 6.1 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.8 BPG

2002 Playoffs: 26.6 PPG (on 43 FG%), 5.8 RPG, 4.6 APG, 1.4 SPG, 0.9 BPG

2002 FINALS: 26.8 PPG (on 51 FG%), 5.8 RPG, 5.3 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.8 BPG


Kobe's number during the 2001 playoffs were as good if not better than LeBron's playoffs numbers from last year. And Kobe's numbers during the 2002 finals were comprable to LeBron's in last years finals.

LeBron 2013 Playoffs: 25.9 PPG (on 49 FG%), 8.4 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.8 BPG

LeBron 2013 FINALS: 25.3 PPG (on 45 FG%), 10.9 RPG, 7.0 APG, 2.3 SPG, 0.9 BPG


If Kobe's 2001 and 2002 rings don't count, then neither does LeBron or pretty much anyone not named Jordan ever. Kobe was just as important to those rings as Shaq. And moreso in the Western Conference playoffs where the title was really decided in all 3 of those seasons. Only reason Shaq racked up all the finals MVPs is because the Eastern conference matchups suited him cause they had no one who could guard him.

only ring you could say Kobe didn't earn as much as Shaq was 2000. and even then, it was his performance in game 7 against Portland that ultimately won them the ring.

Kobe got 5 rings.....end of story

2 as BATMAN
3 as ROBIN

im i lying

 

[Alexander The Great]

Kobe could be argued as the greatest player of all time and greatest side kick of all time

 

[superunknown23]

and Robert Horry got 7

 

[GreatestLaker]

"Separates the greats", as when comparing the greats, we're looking at Finals MVP's. None of those guys are among the all time greats.

Nice try though.

Wilt only has one and by all accounts he was the best player in the league for multiple years.

Kareem only has 2 and he was the best player in the league for a decade.

Bird only has 2.

Ranking players based on the number of Final MVPs they may or may not have is just as stupid as ranking them based on championships their teams won.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wilt only has one and by all accounts he was the best player in the league for multiple years.

Kareem only has 2 and he was the best player in the league for a decade.

Bird only has 2.

Ranking players based on the number of Final MVPs they may or may not have is just as stupid as ranking them based on championships their teams won.

"Only has 2"? How many people in human history can say they have 2 Finals MVP's?

 

[Costanza]

Pippen got 6 so he ain't even the top sidekick

who is? he complimented jordan perfectly... I would say he was the best complementary player of all time...

 

[GreatestLaker]

"Only has 2"? How many people in human history can say they have 2 Finals MVP's?

Then what was the point in asking how many FMVPs that Kobe got? He has 2 too.

 

[10:31]

who is? he complimented jordan perfectly... I would say he was the best complementary player of all time...

Pippen over Kobe?

Hell nah