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People really need to stop with this "black men are oppressors" and "black patriarchy is oppressing black women" crap. This country and the majority of the worlds governments, businesses, economies, corporations, and other entities of power are top down run by white men raised by white women, and other men of color. Black men are nowhere in that equation at all.

Oppression to me is setting up laws, statutes, and other principles that can be applied legally to seriously curb the development of a community from the individual to the collective.

Oppression to me is using those same laws to unfairly imprison black men and black women on charges that other groups would not be subject to.

Oppression to me is denying an individual or collective the right to resources to drastically improve their quality of life that others don't have to worry about.

Oppression to me is using a demographics numbers who have received a head start from unfair advantages due to inequality to administer whatever treatment to another demographic who doesn't have the same power, numbers, or influence.

When you say black men that trap black women in abusive relationships where the woman is free to leave whenever she wants and is largely dependent on the services of non black men is oppression...thats intellectually dishonest. Cause then you could possibly equate something like Jim Crow laws as the same as a black man trapping a black woman in an abusove relationship. That black man and black woman are still suffering from the unlimited amount of power white society has and has had from then til now.

In closing, until black men can control economies, political institutions, and the justice system....trying to attribute black men as a force in the pyramid of oppression is absolutely stupid.
One minute we're getting clowned on for being so powerless but the next minute we're the biggest oppressors...
Which one is it goddammit?... :mindblown:
 

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It's not opinions it is facts...people that follow my threads on domestic violence already know this...

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/mf.pdf

Among black marital partners, wives were just about as likely to kill their husbands as husbands were to kill their wives: 47% of the victims of a spouse were husbands and 53% were wives. Among white victims murdered by their spouse, wives were much less likely to be the killers: 38% of the victims were husbands and 62% were wives.

When a mother killed her own child, the offspring she killed was more likely to be a son than a daughter: 64% sons versus 36% daughters. But when a father killed his own child, the offspring he killed was about as likely to be a daughter as a son: 52% daughters versus 48% sons.


  • “For example, when researchers utilized the Victimization Dating Relationship Scale, slightly more than one half (53%) of a sample of Black male middle and high school students reported dating violence victimization (**** & Espelage, 2005). However, most researchers have used the Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS) or a modified version of this scale, which categorized intimate partner violence as minor (e.g., threw objects, pushed, grabbed, shoved, and slapped) or severe (e.g., choked, beat up, used weapons; Straus, 1979).
  • Based on the CTS, Clark and colleagues (1994) discovered that 41% of the Black college men in their sample had been physically abused by a partner at least once. The aggression most often took the form of pushing, slapping, or hitting. Similarly, 35% of young (19- to 20-year-old) Black men in a low-income community sample had been hit, punched, or slapped (16.3%); pushed, grabbed, or shoved (13.5%); and scratched or bit (10.4%) by a partner (O’Donnell et al., 2006). However, more severe acts were found when the CTS was administered to Job Corps participants. More specifically, the young men in this sample had been beaten up (16.9%) and choked (18.5%) by a girlfriend. In addition, an alarming number had been threatened with a knife or gun (25%) or actually assaulted with a weapon (13%; West & Rose, 2000).”
That's a survey, asking men if their girlfriend slapped them:comeon:

There's literally dozens of statistics about domestic violence that would debunk your stance, but I'm sure you will just explain why those statistics don't count and only the ones you chose to post are good
 

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That's a survey, asking men if their girlfriend slapped them:comeon:

There's literally dozens of statistics about domestic violence that would debunk your stance, but I'm sure you will just explain why those statistics don't count and only the ones you chose to post are good
you sure? that's from the Department of Justice breh :francis:

you gonna tell us that's somehow not a reputable source because it doesn't suit your narrative? :comeon:
 

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you sure? that's from the Department of Justice breh :francis:

you gonna tell us that's somehow not a reputable source because it doesn't suit your narrative? :comeon:
Never said it wasn't reputable. I said it was a purposely incomplete picture.

The same organization has statistics that say 85% of domestic violence victims are women.

So if one was really interested in looking at the issue without an agenda he'd take all those statistics and consider what they mean in the real world.
 
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