Thomas Sowell: Welfare makes excuses for things that are wrong.

[DEAD7]

 

[Meadow]

IS this a @bdizzle alias?

@Meadow

@bdizzle

 

[TRY GOD]

True ish....

Not only does America spend so much on military to flex muscles around the world, it also seems like they (consciously or unconsciously) rather spend the money on military rather than social programs for bored kids so they'll end up joining the military anyway or do nothing with their lives.

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[Broke Wave]

I gave these nikkas work tho

 

[Dameon Farrow]

I don't think its outlandish to say we respected ourselves more back then

We also had more of our own businesses. People are basically jumping all over Sowell because he is a conservative. If he was a LImousine Liberal, they'd simply say he makes some but not all good points and keep it moving. Most people are overemotional children looking for something to be unhappy about I find.

Personally, I say let welfare remain. It isn't the drag on the economy like folks think compared to money we really and truly waste. We had it rougher back then with Jim Crow. But I do see a time when we had more of our own and less of theirs infiltrating the community. But that's evidently a conservative view on things so what do I know?

 

[Opus]

That's the problem I had with your initial response though because you closed your post with an ad hominem attack on Sowell, claiming him to be intellectually dishonest when you actually agree with some of the points he makes in his works and didn't know because you already formed a negative opinion on him. Which is something a lot of blacks do when it comes to black conservatives.

And I stand by black males in prison being more of a symptom of broke black families than the core catalyst, at most I would say its a key part of the cycle now, but it wasn't the catalyst.

No, the catalyst is racism. Do you really not get that?

And none of that shyt was in OP. OP Sowell was telling lies and being disingenuous, and other stuff I've read from him he tells lies. If someone is telling lies and I know it, I don't make myself a consumer of everything else a person writes. A broke clock is right twice a day. The fact I don't use it as my time peice doesn't have anything to do with the type of clock it is, it's because the motherfukkers broke!

 

[Opus]

Farm subsidies are welfare too.The loans the USA gives to teh Europeans to cover their debt is welfare. Bailouts are also welfare. Notice how all the aforementioned people utilize welfare to better their circumstances -- but nevertheless collect welfare. Where is the railing? I don't believe welfare is itself to blame for black American ills. The Israelis partly live on welfare too and their society is fine. I think the problem is how the welfare money is spent and whether the programs the USA spends its money on actually work. The problem I see is that there isn't any initiative to truly explore ways to help the poor because middle class and higher cacs don't care about poor people (especially blacks). So long as the upper class can live in their sequestered little gated villages, they could care less what happens elsewhere.

Welfare all throughout this country. Welfare that enables people to live meaningful lives and indeed even continue to be rich. Yet to @acewonders welfare leads to shyt culture and complacency. It's not the notion of welfare, which goes to deeply subsidized loans for students, mortgage write offs, capital gains, developers, multinational conglomerates, and nations like Greece and Italy, as well as most of the rest of Western Europe, it's the paucity of welfare blacks get compared to other groups that's the real issue; coupled with the historic inequality preventing many blacks from taking advantage of more lucrative forms of welfare. Does @acewonders really think the 600,000 to 90000 in overall wealth discrepancy between black and white families can be attributed to culture? That 1 percent of black people being millionaires to a third of whites is cultural?

 

[Opus]

We also had more of our own businesses. People are basically jumping all over Sowell because he is a conservative. If he was a LImousine Liberal, they'd simply say he makes some but not all good points and keep it moving. Most people are overemotional children looking for something to be unhappy about I find.

Personally, I say let welfare remain. It isn't the drag on the economy like folks think compared to money we really and truly waste. We had it rougher back then with Jim Crow. But I do see a time when we had more of our own and less of theirs infiltrating the community. But that's evidently a conservative view on things so what do I know?

It's because he's attributing blame to the lowest among us, advocating they bear the burden of a racist society. All while totally ignoring other factors that contribute to differing outcomes. OP is a disgusting worldview. To do that as a black person, for profit, is derision worthy and goes beyond typical liberal v conservative debate

 

[Jhoon]

It's because he's attributing blame to the lowest among us, advocating they bear the burden of a racist society. All while totally ignoring other factors that contribute to differing outcomes. OP is a disgusting worldview. To do that as a black person, for profit, is derision worthy and goes beyond typical liberal v conservative debate

Im greatful sowell has lived a life where he could spew his bullshyt without remorse. Maybe that is proof the country is getting better. Most bootlickers before him always got the opportunity to eat their sordid words.

 

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[William F. Russell]

Im greatful sowell has lived a life where he could spew his bullshyt without remorse. Maybe that is proof the country is getting better. Most bootlickers before him always got the opportunity to eat their sordid words.

Emotional blabbering and mud-slinging.

And you cannot deny that there is some merit in what he is saying. I won't say that welfare is the main reason for the black community's current condition but you'd be an absolute fool to believe that it hasn't had an adverse net impact on our community.

 

[William F. Russell]

It's because he's attributing blame to the lowest among us, advocating they bear the burden of a racist society. All while totally ignoring other factors that contribute to differing outcomes. OP is a disgusting worldview. To do that as a black person, for profit, is derision worthy and goes beyond typical liberal v conservative debate

No, you're reading too deeply into it. If he's blaming anybody, it's the government for providing individual welfare in the first place.

And why does he have to be a supporter of the welfare system because he is black? He can't have a certain viewpoint because of his race? That's real ignorance.

 

[Jhoon]

Emotional blabbering and mud-slinging.

And you cannot deny that there is some merit in what he is saying. I won't say that welfare is the main reason for the black community's current condition but you'd be an absolute fool to believe that it hasn't had a an adverse net impact on our community.

Theres zero merit to what hes saying. Then again i dont speak cac. Apparently you do. And thats fine. English is the only cac language im only interested in.

 

[Nomad1]

Emotional blabbering and mud-slinging.

And you cannot deny that there is some merit in what he is saying. I won't say that welfare is the main reason for the black community's current condition but you'd be an absolute fool to believe that it hasn't had a an adverse net impact on our community.

It has and it will continue to do so. It takes away responsibility and makes our community entirely dependent on the government. We can easily support each other with group economics, and the money will go back into the community. But if you say welfare aint shyt and we want better for our people, then the black militants will attack you and call you a c00n.

 

[Nomad1]

WHERE IS YOUR MATH FROM, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR NUMBERS?!

Is 13% higher than 77% in 2015?

How does a percentage, of a percentage of Black people, whose population is at 13%, OUTNUMBER a percentage of 77% of a population?

Do yall nikkas know how math works?

What does proportions matter when the majority of a population has a higher number of people on welfare all together?


Why do White people who have all the wealth and power STILL continue to be the main benefactors of welfare?

I'm being ignored because NO ONE CAN ANSWER ME, BECAUSE NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS.

I HAVE YET TO BE PROVED WRONG.

@DEAD7 @acewonders @OrdellRobbie

White people are the main benefactors of welfare b/c they have a bigger population. Our population in America is 13% yet the numbers on welfare are extremely high. Breh I don't think you understand/know how to analyze statistical data.