Thomas Sowell: Welfare makes excuses for things that are wrong.

Is Thomas Sowell right about Welfare?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 32.4%
  • No

    Votes: 12 35.3%
  • Partially right

    Votes: 11 32.4%

  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .

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I knew that. :francis:



You're right. You say it like it's a bad thing. :mjlol:
It's not a bad thing, if you don't want to be around those elements then it's a good thing. But the fact that you think it has to be ducktales is corny. And if you haven't been around those elements you wouldn't be in a position to speak on them, which was what the original post you quoted was saying.
 

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Dude is right about welfare though. The first half of the century black folks had to sink or swim with no help from the gov't whatsoever and most black people were swimming which is why you have black wall street in Durham, NC and Oklahoma and all these affluent black communities in the early 1900s. Welfare was introduced for white people but once they saw how it made black people more dependent on the gov't than themselves and their community they realized it was a new form of slavery.

I'm sure there are people who have used welfare to get on their feet and be stronger but I believe there are more black folks damaged by welfare than helped.
 

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Dude is right about welfare though. The first half of the century black folks had to sink or swim with no help from the gov't whatsoever and most black people were swimming which is why you have black wall street in Durham, NC and Oklahoma and all these affluent black communities in the early 1900s. Welfare was introduced for white people but once they saw how it made black people more dependent on the gov't than themselves and their community they realized it was a new form of slavery.

I'm sure there are people who have used welfare to get on their feet and be stronger but I believe there are more black folks damaged by welfare than helped.
Welfare was promoted in the black communities because left-wing whites realized it was an easy way to keep black and poor votes. Ignoring whether it actually improved or strengthen black communities.
 

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Welfare was promoted in the black communities because left-wing whites realized it was an easy way to keep black and poor votes. Ignoring whether it actually improved or strengthen black communities.

I know, they had them peoples in ya house checking to make sure there was no man in the home.
 
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Dude is right about welfare though. The first half of the century black folks had to sink or swim with no help from the gov't whatsoever and most black people were swimming which is why you have black wall street in Durham, NC and Oklahoma and all these affluent black communities in the early 1900s. Welfare was introduced for white people but once they saw how it made black people more dependent on the gov't than themselves and their community they realized it was a new form of slavery.

I'm sure there are people who have used welfare to get on their feet and be stronger but I believe there are more black folks damaged by welfare than helped.

I don't know about all that breh.
 

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I don't know about all that breh.

Bruh don't get it twisted Welfare was partly created to fukk up the black community. I honestly believe welfare and crack were created to destroy the black community because despite white supremacy the KKK, racism etc in the early 1900s we had all our own shyt and would probably be the #1 minority in this country without that. I mean without welfare crack wouldn't have taken off like it did. nikkas can sit around all day getting high if they had to go to work but when you sit on your ass and get a check every month that leaves more time to get high.
 
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Bruh don't get it twisted Welfare was partly created to fukk up the black community. I honestly believe welfare and crack were created to destroy the black community because despite white supremacy the KKK, racism etc in the early 1900s we had all our own shyt and would probably be the #1 minority in this country without that. I mean without welfare crack wouldn't have taken off like it did. nikkas can sit around all day getting high if they had to go to work but when you sit on your ass and get a check every month that leaves more time to get high.

I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm disagreeing with MOST black people were swimming, I.E. successful. I assure you that wasn't the case, and that Black Wall Street and Durham NC where anomalies. Hell you've more Black millionaires and affluent communities than maybe ever.
 

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I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm disagreeing with MOST black people were swimming, I.E. successful. I assure you that wasn't the case, and that Black Wall Street and Durham NC where anomalies. Hell you've more Black millionaires and affluent communities than maybe ever.

When I say swimming I mean they weren't rich but they were about middle class. Look at Detroit, Chicago, the midwest, the west coast, the north east all these places that nikkas are at now are because life in these areas were better for black folks so they migrated from the South. Think about how many black owned companies existed which employed other black people. There were more black people doing good than bad overall. If we were all doing bad then welfare nor crack would have been introduced to the black community.
 

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It's not a bad thing, if you don't want to be around those elements then it's a good thing. But the fact that you think it has to be ducktales is corny. And if you haven't been around those elements you wouldn't be in a position to speak on them, which was what the original post you quoted was saying.

Man, I thought you were done replying.

Listen, @No_bammer_weed called attention to both the absurdity of your argument and your faulty rationale. Instead of actually refuting him, you started talking about your hood experience, as if it made your argument any more valid or reasonable. When he called you out on how narrow-minded your "hood" thinking was, you made some tired ass claims about how your ear is to the ground and about how you navigate different social strata; mingling with the low-life street pimps and hustlers while simultaneously sharing high-brow conversation with the one-percent.

I don't know you but I do know that folks tend to be around those at the same level as them. If you're "putting money on books" and hanging out with low-rent ass criminals, you tend to be a low-rent cat yourself. Likewise, a lot of the cats that make it out "the hood" and into decent paying, highly-competitive positions in wall street or tech, tend to be around those who have done the same. That's the way the world works.

Sounds like you've been watching too many TV shows with that, "streets and the boardroom" shyt.

Or, more than likely, you didn't have an actual argument and had to lie to kick it. Either way. :francis:
 

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Man, I thought you were done replying.

Listen, @No_bammer_weed called attention to both the absurdity of your argument and your faulty rationale. Instead of actually refuting him, you started talking about your hood experience, as if it made your argument any more valid or reasonable. When he called you out on how narrow-minded your "hood" thinking was, you made some tired ass claims about how your ear is to the ground and about how you navigate different social strata; mingling with the low-life street pimps and hustlers while simultaneously sharing high-brow conversation with the one-percent.

I don't know you but I do know that folks tend to be around those at the same level as them. If you're "putting money on books" and hanging out with low-rent ass criminals, you tend to be a low-rent cat yourself. Likewise, a lot of the cats that make it out "the hood" and into decent paying, highly-competitive positions in wall street or tech, tend to be around those who have done the same. That's the way the world works.

Sounds like you've been watching too many TV shows with that, "streets and the boardroom" shyt.

Or, more than likely, you didn't have an actual argument and had to lie to kick it. Either way. :francis:

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keyword "tend"

lol you're one of those people that think everybody that makes it make it in America made it off hardwork and education, not realizing the Asian dentist in the nice suburb family has growhouses all around the city, that the Arabs with the portfolio of businesses do bank fraud, and the Nigerians with the 1M house, hit a lick with Medicaid fraud. These aren't hypothetical situations either. It's cool because most people can't see past the veil, I can spot a money-laundering front and illegal money fast though.

I'm just a Nigerian kid that was born in Southwest Houston, my friend Damilare comes from the same background (and does have a bullet wound in his leg) but :duck: right?

Now that I posted proof he exist I guess the next accusation is that I don't talk to him as much as I claim. :mjlol:One of his close friend before he went to boarding school just signed for 30 behind a triple homicide, and he still keeps up with him and a bunch of other nikkas locked up behind murders and robbery, but that must be :duck: because you said that type of stuff doesn't "tend" to happen.

I got uncles that do fraud involving Nigerian government contracts for light-bulbs, I have uncles that work for Chase/JP Morgan. Don't apply your simple life tropes to my life. You never seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

This shyt almost makes me want to stunt on you internet peons, but I don't flex period and definitely not on the internet.

One of my main mentors, a "low rent dope dealer" by your word, owns and bunch of business and property is debating whether to purchase a home in the energy corridor or Memorial, but he probably doesn't exist either :lolbron:

In the real world it doesn't matter how you get your money, as long as you have money and trouble isn't coming with it.

But back to main topic, yea if you're not from the hood or barely know the inner workings of the hood, keep your left-wing ivory tower solutions on "how to fix the hood" to yourself :umad:
 
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Man, I thought you were done replying.

Listen, @No_bammer_weed called attention to both the absurdity of your argument and your faulty rationale. Instead of actually refuting him, you started talking about your hood experience, as if it made your argument any more valid or reasonable. When he called you out on how narrow-minded your "hood" thinking was, you made some tired ass claims about how your ear is to the ground and about how you navigate different social strata; mingling with the low-life street pimps and hustlers while simultaneously sharing high-brow conversation with the one-percent.

I don't know you but I do know that folks tend to be around those at the same level as them. If you're "putting money on books" and hanging out with low-rent ass criminals, you tend to be a low-rent cat yourself. Likewise, a lot of the cats that make it out "the hood" and into decent paying, highly-competitive positions in wall street or tech, tend to be around those who have done the same. That's the way the world works.

Sounds like you've been watching too many TV shows with that, "streets and the boardroom" shyt.

Or, more than likely, you didn't have an actual argument and had to lie to kick it. Either way. :francis:

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:mjlol:

keyword "tend"

lol you're one of those people that think everybody that makes it make it in America made it off hardwork and education, not realizing the Asian dentist in the nice suburb family has growhouses all around the city, that the Arabs with the portfolio of businesses do bank fraud, and the Nigerians with the 1M house, hit a lick with Medicaid fraud. These aren't hypothetical situations either. It's cool because most people can't see past the veil, I can spot a money-laundering front and illegal money fast though.

I'm just a Nigerian kid that was born in Southwest Houston, my friend Damilare comes from the same background (and does have a bullet wound in his leg) but :duck: right?

Now that I posted proof he exist I guess the next accusation is that I don't talk to him as much as I claim. :mjlol:One of his close friend before he went to boarding school just signed for 30 behind a triple homicide, and he still keeps up with him and a bunch of other nikkas locked up behind murders and robbery, but that must be :duck: because you said that type of stuff doesn't "tend" to happen.

I got uncles that do fraud involving Nigerian government contracts for light-bulbs, I have uncles that work for Chase/JP Morgan. Don't apply your simple life tropes to my life. You never seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

This shyt almost makes me want to stunt on you internet peons, but I don't flex period and definitely not on the internet.

One of my main mentors, a "low rent dope dealer" by your word, owns and bunch of business and property is debating whether to purchase a home in the energy corridor or Memorial, but he probably doesn't exist either :lolbron:

In the real world it doesn't matter how you get your money, as long as you have money and trouble isn't coming with it.

But back to main topic, yea if you're not from the hood or barely know the inner workings of the hood, keep your left-wing ivory tower solutions on "how to fix the hood" to yourself :umad:



Ok.
 

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The Crackers in the government never gave us our 40 acres and a mule, so fukk them crackers. take anything these crackers in the government will give you.


IT'S TOO BAD WHITES ARE HOGGING ALL THE WELFARE THO, since they make up the biggest race of people on welfare.
You will never hear a politician say that white women are the predominant recipients of welfare. It's a fact.

There are arguments to be made against welfare but Sowell's is embarrassing.

" Yet in the first half of the 20th century, you’d have a hard time finding five ghetto riots like that of Ferguson."

Probably because "the ghetto" is a product of 60s public policy with regard to urban housing. And even still there were riots. Including arguably the biggest one, by white pepole.

The multitude of 60s and 70s riots were about race, not fukking welfare. They were the early cries of people caged up and told to shut up, in poor living conditions with limited services. Things quieted down later as things "got better" - or maybe they quieted down due to an influx of drugs. I'm not sure. Regardless things flared up again in the 90s, and have flared up again now.

You can't pull the "slavery was hundreds of years ago" card when this country didn't halt most of its most blatant abuses of black men until the 1960s. And since then it's just been a race to the bottom to find any way to fukk up shyt. Whether it's micro - Sterling types refusing to rent to blacks - or macro, like the city of Detroit's tax dollars being siphoned out to surrounding suburbs.
 
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