Did he really? I think he was influenced and led astray by outside forces. Nobody quotes post NOI Malcolm. They hate Elijah because cacs taught them to. But the Malcolm people love today prefaced everything he said with " The Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us.."
Thoughts on the honorable elijah muhammad
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Did he really? I think he was influenced and led astray by outside forces. Nobody quotes post NOI Malcolm. They hate Elijah because cacs taught them to. But the Malcolm people love today prefaced everything he said with " The Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us.."
Drip Bayless
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People hate Elijah Muhammad because he and the NOI had Malcolm X assassinated
I hate when people say that shyt, you're reducing the man to a pawn of the NOI who couldn't form intelligent statements without their leadership.
People hate Elijah Muhammad because he and the NOI had Malcolm X assassinated
I hate when people say that shyt, you're reducing the man to a pawn of the NOI who couldn't form intelligent statements without their leadership.
Malcolm was a junkie burglar who COULDN'T write a coherent sentence before he was introduced to the NOI... And these are Malcolm's words.
Once again, what proof do you have that the NOI had him killed?
Well one Malcolm X obviously possessed the capacity to be great and the NOI helped him to focus on that, which is great, because if this were not the case the NOI would've produced another Malcolm X.
Second, what the hell do you mean what proof?
Try the Hayer Affadavits.
Malcolm X was marked by NOI as someone who needed to be silenced shortly before his death and placed on a gag order. This is well known. He defied that authority and was murdered, followed by the confessions of Talmadge X Hayers. Then there's also there's the "disappearance" of Wallace Fard where Elijah Muhammad immediately thereafter rose to prominence and the fact that Elijah Muhammad sired roughly 19 illegitimate children. He's be no means a man with clean hands.
End of discussion.
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William? LOLWell one Malcolm X obviously possessed the capacity to be great and the NOI helped him to focus on that, which is great, because if this were not the case the NOI would've produced another Malcolm X.
Second, what the hell do you mean what proof?
Try the Hayer Affadavits.
Malcolm X was marked by NOI as someone who needed to be silenced shortly before his death and placed on a gag order. This is well known. He defied that authority and was murdered, followed by the confessions of Talmadge X Hayers. Then there's also there's the "disappearance" of William Fard where Elijah Muhammad immediately thereafter rose to prominence and the fact that Elijah Muhammad sired roughly 19 illegitimate children. He's be no means a man with clean hands.
End of discussion.
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The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad was the greatest leader of and for Black people in America, and it really isn't even debatable.
Well one Malcolm X obviously possessed the capacity to be great and the NOI helped him to focus on that, which is great, because if this were not the case the NOI would've produced another Malcolm X.
Second, what the hell do you mean what proof?
Try the Hayer Affadavits.
Malcolm X was marked by NOI as someone who needed to be silenced shortly before his death and placed on a gag order. This is well known. He defied that authority and was murdered, followed by the confessions of Talmadge X Hayers. Then there's also there's the "disappearance" of Wallace Fard where Elijah Muhammad immediately thereafter rose to prominence and the fact that Elijah Muhammad sired roughly 19 illegitimate children. He's be no means a man with clean hands.
End of discussion.
Once again, where is the proof that Elijah had him killed?
Feds would have did a sweep and arrested the entire NOI leadership if this were true.
Malcolm X was NOT the first NOI member to be suspended.. and not the last.
got them in shape and organised, a great achievement in my view.
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Oh yeah the feds totally would've swept the NOI to avenge Malcolm X's death. That's probable. Everybody knows that the F.B.I during the 1960's under J Edgar Hoover was competent and rational.
That's the smoking gun. As I said, I'm done here.
Drip Bayless
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And HE was the one who read word after word in the dictionary and book after book to educate himself. And that was when he was in prison.
A temple #7 leader tried to have his car bombed
You'd be better off asking is there any proof that they didn't kill him
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Some of Elijah Muhammad's strongest critics would readily admit that he was the most successful leader for Black people in America.He was a hustler and instigated the demise of Malcolm X
So...
And the Black Panthers did not take after the NOI...
The Black Panthers took after Malcolm X, Castro, Che and Mao...
You call it hustling
Even if you simply compare The Black Panthers 10 Point Program to the Nation of Islam's "The Muslim Program," you cannot flat out say that they didn't take after the NOI.
The Panthers even broke it down to "wants" and "beliefs" like the NOI, nevermind the similarities in the actual content of the 2 programs.
So instead of taking after a Black leader and Black organization in America, they took after a Brown man from Argentina, a Brown man from Cuba, and a Yellow man from China.
And if you go to the root of that, they were taking after a cracker Jew from Germany, and a cracker Jew from Russia. As if any of them had a better plan and program, and better grasp on the condition of Black people in America, than The Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
That "it's not about race, it's about class" stuff is garbage.
The NOI taught and still do teach black people how to be educated without being white washed and how to sustain yourself. Elijah Muhammad made a mistake like we all do, I don't like how he tried to cover it up and how Malcolm X killed for over covering the truth and working with the Feds and NYPD to do it.
and that's a shame on how they didn't want to grow with him