*THREAD SPINOFF* What made you an atheist or agnostic?

[Blackout]

Possibilities are useless.

Lets get to the facts.

What?

This thread is about asking for your views.

What are you talking about?

 

[Paisley Darts]

My mom made me go to Sunday school every Sunday when I was younger. I'd say from the age of 7 to the age of about 16 I went damn near 85% of Sundays. I was happy as hell when I hit 16 and had the excuse of going to work so I didn't have to go to church anymore lol. I wasn't agnostic then, but it was the same rhetoric over and over again...the Bible isn't but so damn big. But anyway, I've always been skeptical. The whole Jesus died for our sins and the Lord/Jesus/Holy Ghost are of the same person or whatever made absolutely no sense to me. I was in denial for about 2 years or so and then I stopped lying to myself. It hit me that the book defies logic and reads like a fairy tale. It also didn't help that the Bible was used to promote slavery and help oppress black people. Now black people are some of the most religious people on earth (go figure) but thats another story. Then I did research and I found out that the stories of the Bible existed before the Bible was invented. Also, being a firefighter and seeing some really fukked up shyt was icing on the cake. In fact, I'd say being a firefighter moved from from agnostic to pretty much atheist. But I still say I don't know if there is a higher power but more than likely their isn't.

 

[Droopy]

I'm not an atheist, but I've worked with people who are. I have a christian background but I am able to reason with their views.
But I found it so ironic that they end up doing exactly what they hate christians for doing.

 

[Greenstrings]

Honestly?

No.

humanity is at that point now.

Don't be dense, if humanity was "at that point" or even capable of being described as at a point, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. There is no monoculture, or empirically verified linear model of societal evolution. People are flawed, complex and varied. That is never going to stop being the case.

And the solution isn't to make shyt up in lieu of a limitation to understanding

Castigating people in the present as if it isn't understandable why they're susceptible to the weight of millennia of cultural practice isn't a solution to anything either.

Or the shyt you say isn't worth replying to in defense of superstition

Nah, you have a mind for straightforward facts but anytime I say anything that requires a modicum of lateral thought you clench up.

It is.

Deism is what you get from people who aren't willing to put both feet over the ledge. They know "traditional" religion is a farce but they also don't apply those criticism unilaterally to themselves. Its almost narcissism in action to be a deist to assert that your special little god applies to only you and only you understand it.

I wouldn't presume to know what anybody is or isn't willing to do and there's no way you can claim to know that either. There's is no empirical way to determine what kind of beliefs can be genuine. And no it isn't, a deist doesn't have to claim to understand their 'god' to be classified as such. You're applying overly specific criticisms to what is a very broad term.

And its equally as unsubstantiated and indefensible of a claim

Whether or not it's unsubstantiated or indefensible has no bearing on whether or not it can be considered a religion

 

[The Don]

I'm not an atheist, but I've worked with people who are. I have a christian background but I am able to reason with their views.
But I found it so ironic that they end up doing exactly what they hate christians for doing.

My point of the whole thread

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

@ dem struggle responses.

 

[92Inc]

My horrible childhood is the reason I'm a atheist

 

[Ghost_In_A_Shell]

Because it has a parasitic hold on our community and it defies reason.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Don't be dense, if humanity was "at that point" or even capable of being described as at a point, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

We are at that point. Unfortunately not everyone has paid attention to the updates.

There is no monoculture, or empirically verified linear model of societal evolution. People are flawed, complex and varied. That is never going to stop being the case.

I didn't say this.

Castigating people in the present as if it isn't understandable why they're susceptible to the weight of millennia of cultural practice isn't a solution to anything either.

Its not excusable either.

Nah, you have a mind for straightforward facts but anytime I say anything that requires a modicum of lateral thought you clench up.

So make better arguments that don't rely on supplementary information

I wouldn't presume to know what anybody is or isn't willing to do and there's no way you can claim to know that either. There's is no empirical way to determine what kind of beliefs can be genuine.

Sure we can. Thats what experiments are for.

And no it isn't, a deist doesn't have to claim to understand their 'god' to be classified as such. You're applying overly specific criticisms to what is a very broad term.

Too bad. Adopting religious views is voluntary. And as such, they can be evaluated and verified

Whether or not it's unsubstantiated or indefensible has no bearing on whether or not it can be considered a religion

Empiricism disagrees with you.

 

[tmonster]

in the beginning: could not reconcile slavery with Christianity and one day I just had the courage to say fukk that shyt

in the end: none of it makes any sense, it's all so bizarre, he's benevolent, yet allows suffering, yet he's omnipotent yada yada yada (and I like making sense and things that makes sense nowadays)

In the future: Every day I am more and more at the idea that all this started as some entropically permuted statistical lottery mitigated by equally mysterious physical forces & plain ole time. It's getting to the point where I don't even want a "God" to exist. The mystery itself is bliss.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I been on SOHH since 2002 and I been on the Coli since a few months after it launched and it finally happend

Someone literally scoffed at the idea of NOT being able to survive inside the belly of a fukking whale for 3 days

This is why our world is fukked up. fukktards having more fukktards and somehow rising to power.

 

[tmonster]

@ dem struggle responses.

I don't even need to watch and I am already and

but damn tho, religion got grown ass men lying to innocently curious children

 

[The Don]

Because it has a parasitic hold on our community and it defies reason.

You can say the same for atheism......its all based on theories

 

[tmonster]

You can say the same for atheism......its all based on theories

 

[The Don]