Tichina Arnold "What can black women do to stop the aiding in the emasculation of black men"

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There is no point in arguing who is worse. That’s a fruitless convo.

Back to the question though? If you are a man and can’t be a man without the “aide” of a woman, what CAN you do? Especially when you’re the same men begging to be the leaders of the community? If women can so easily emasculate you, how can you expect them to look at you as any kind of leader? How can a women submit to a man that can’t even be a man (something that a woman could never do, so how can she aide you in it) without her “aide”?
I think it is a useful convo if only because it actually looks at power dynamics. One does need the help of women to be men. The issue of not having women work against men. Obviously men should not work against women but you can't be having situations like this:


Or more obviously, the backlash Arnold is receiving for asking a simple question. If the genders were flipped, it would not be so much a controversy but still the same people attacking black men again. That said, it is less than emasculation, than it is championing a system that does this. One has to fight against the system but how much more annoying is that fight when you have to deal with people within your own fold as well?
 

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The quote is " Once you accept the internet....." What are you talking about playa. Are you saying most people dont have the internet?:gucci:
In that case I see what you mean. The internet is real and affects culture. Twitter and social media is not all of the internet though which is where this discourse is coming from… nor should opinions of people who post on Twitter be taken as the end all be all
 

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when you understand your history.... you become VERY proud.

when you understand your history... you become a nationalist.

when you understand your history.... you dont say stupid shyt like women on twitter.
This is exceedingly true. It baffles me how little people know about history. More often if not always, those that bash black men know shyt all about black history or about black culture, here and abroad.
 

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And not for nothing, the original premise of the question is a redundant off shoot of the "where are the real men nowadays?" trope that's littered on social media.

This isn't an appraisal of black men. She's saying nikkas are p*ssy and asking desperately if there's anything women can do to stop it :skip:
 

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this speaks more on black men.

why are we letting women of our race help emasculate us?

we're the ones who are suppose to take the lead and set the tone

women influence shouldn't be so strong to stunt your manhood
The quote is

"What can black women do to stop the aiding in the emasculation of black men" to women.

WTF does this have to do with "we letting women of our race....."

And you got nikkas that dap this shyt. She is literally talking to women and you nikkas falling on yall sword saying some goofy shyt like we letting them the women who have their own free will emasculate black men. Like son, whats wrong with you nikkas b,:gucci:
 
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Not mulatto. And Black women who are not in my family love me :umad:

You are a biracial - You have admitted this. You have white cousins, white grandparents, white nieces and nephews.

You sit at the thanksgiving dinner table with white people.

I dont subscribe to the one-drop rule, and I dont discuss black issues with mulattos.

Keep it moving, my boy.
 

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You are a biracial - You have admitted this. You have white cousins, white grandparents, white nieces and nephews.

You sit at the thanksgiving dinner table with white people.


I dont subscribe to the one-drop rule, and I dont discuss black issues with mulattos.

Keep it moving, my boy.
:mjlol: No I don’t. My family is a no cac zone, my guy.

Why you mad at me cause Black women don’t love you though?

I gotta be white cause I say that a Black that isn’t in one’s family can love a Black man? :russ:
 

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In any case, in regards to Ms. Arnold, and this can surely be applied to other groups as well, learn to speak with nuance in regards to black men and adhere to some actual statistics. I'm tired of our worst somehow being representative of all black men in it is not true. It's bullshyt and baffles me that the very same people that would whine about white supremacists and the shyt they would say about black women will then turn around and use talking points and misconstrued stats from the very same people they just got done being upset about. It's stupid, mind-boggling, and pathetic. :unimpressed:
 

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I think it is a useful convo if only because it actually looks at power dynamics. One does need the help of women to be men. The issue of not having women work against men. Obviously men should not work against women but you can't be having situations like this:


Or more obviously, the backlash Arnold is receiving for asking a simple question. If the genders were flipped, it would not be so much a controversy but still the same people attacking black men again.

It could be a useful convo but it won’t be because nobody wants to actually take accountability.

For instance, if we were really having a convo about who’s the “right hand of white supremacy” the convo could not be had in earnest without bringing up the rates that black men kill black women and each other. But if you do bring that up on this board you immediately get labeled an agent or a cac or a c00n and dismissed.

Y’all don’t really want to have the convo, y’all just wanna pretend. If the convo is REALLY to be had EVERYTHING needs to be up for discussion and it’s not.
 
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