TIDAL subscribers more than double since release of TLOP

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Some of Y'all nikkas hate seeing black business flourish...y'all rather support Apple who's CEO is a fakkit and board members are Jews.
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The 1.5 Mil increase is a good look for Jay, but it doesn't change the fact that it'll be virtually impossible for Jay to continue running Tidal for longer than a few more years.

Music licensing rights are over a billion dollars a year right now for streaming companies, and they're going to go WAY up in the near future since all the major labels feel they're getting ripped off currently. In order to survice in the streaming game, you've either gotta be able to operate for damn near a decade without seeing any profit. Spotify's been running for 7 years and hasn't made a profit yet. To last in music streaming, you gotta be a huge company with billions in profit coming in from other products, (Apple, Google, Amazon) or have billions invested in your company from multiple firms (Spotify has Goldman Sachs and Dubai Oil money out the ass invested in them).

I've said before I think Jay is gonna try to get his subscriber numbers up to around 5 million, then sell the company to Samsung. Even though he wouldn't own Tidal after that, that's still a major power move.


I wouldn't be surprised if that was his plan all along.:ohhh:Especially since you make a good point about the costs of music licensing.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was his plan all along.:ohhh:Especially since you make a good point about the costs of music licensing.

Exactly. He's essentially doing the same thing that Dre did. And Dre ATE off that deal. If Jay can keep building the company without having to bring in investment dollars from venture capitalists, then he could make a few hundred million off the sale in a couple years.

No streaming company is making any kind of profit right now. They're losing hundreds of millions of dollars every year. But once streaming become more commonplace and the amount of consumers willing to subscribe to a service grows, then the profits will start rolling in. That likely won't happen for another 10 years tho, then it would probably be another 10 years to recoup all the money you lost while establishing the company. It's a long term investment that requires a HUGE amount of money; which is why I think Jay will cash out early on Tidal.
 

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Exactly. He's essentially doing the same thing that Dre did. And Dre ATE off that deal. If Jay can keep building the company without having to bring in investment dollars from venture capitalists, then he could make a few hundred million off the sale in a couple years.

No streaming company is making any kind of profit right now. They're losing hundreds of millions of dollars every year. But once streaming become more commonplace and the amount of consumers willing to subscribe to a service grows, then the profits will start rolling in. That likely won't happen for another 10 years tho, then it would probably be another 10 years to recoup all the money you lost while establishing the company. It's a long term investment that requires a HUGE amount of money; which is why I think Jay will cash out early on Tidal.
These streaming services are like NBA teams. The revenue isn't high, if there is any, but the value is in the sale. Spotify was valuated at $8.5 billion...7 months ago. If Tidal can hit whatever number of users it needs to cover operating costs, then they're going to succeed. And they might have already, if they're over a million. They have a strong backbone and they have exclusives from big name artists. So they'll sail to a huge valuation and eventually sell it off.

And I read a study that shows that the retention rate on free trials is over 70%, so Tidal is going to keep a lot of the people that come in for free, even if they just forget. That's the entire model of the gym membership industry...
 
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Spotify and Apple Music>>>Camel

thats the false equivalency. its either tidal or apple or spotify-

um no. I have been downloading ALL my music for free to my laptop and phone. Bc I wanna hear my music, even whenim offline, and no i have it in my device, and I want it fre.
Im not paying anybody for what I can find for free online with an easy search.

Things I dont pay for in 2016: Music, movies, cable tv, landline phone :blessed::blessed:
 

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thats the false equivalency. its either tidal or apple or spotify-

um no. I have been downloading ALL my music for free to my laptop and phone. Bc I wanna hear my music, even whenim offline, and no i have it in my device, and I want it fre.
Im not paying anybody for what I can find for free online with an easy search.

Things I dont pay for in 2016: Music, movies, cable tv, landline phone :blessed::blessed:


I agree, but if you have to pay, Spotify and Apple Music. Tidal is a waste. Im writing off my spotify in the future anyways :manny:
 
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