A reverse john van der velde if that makes any senseAnybody screaming "racism" about this is a fukking idiot
Tiger broke a rule, and he admitted he broke a rule (although unknowingly to him), and they retroactively penalized him for it
Just because they didn't realize it was an infraction when he did it does not mean he gets absolved of any wrongdoing later. Golf has NEVER had a problem retroactively penalizing, or even disqualifying people. The rules are taken incredibly seriously, and penalizing people after the fact is incredibly common.
Stop being morons and claiming it is a conspiracy or that they are out to get him. He is lucky they didn't disqualify him, because they could have under the rules.
What people should be going crazy about is not the fact that he was penalized, but the fact that hitting the flag pole has ended up costing him as many as 4 strokes. Some of the worst bad luck I have seen on a golf course.
I'm still pulling for Tiger, but I think his chances now are a little
Tiger's Drive For Five: The Masters 2013 Thread
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Anybody screaming "racism" about this is a fukking idiot
Tiger broke a rule, and he admitted he broke a rule (although unknowingly to him), and they retroactively penalized him for it
Just because they didn't realize it was an infraction when he did it does not mean he gets absolved of any wrongdoing later. Golf has NEVER had a problem retroactively penalizing, or even disqualifying people. The rules are taken incredibly seriously, and penalizing people after the fact is incredibly common.
Stop being morons and claiming it is a conspiracy or that they are out to get him. He is lucky they didn't disqualify him, because they could have under the rules.
What people should be going crazy about is not the fact that he was penalized, but the fact that hitting the flag pole has ended up costing him as many as 4 strokes. Some of the worst bad luck I have seen on a golf course.
I'm still pulling for Tiger, but I think his chances now are a little
Not racism necessarily, but b/c of his race and talent- he is overly scrutinized. If this is a nobody, probably no one even cares and nothing happens.
But if you look at his drop, it is about 2 feet back of the divot, which was not drastic and didnt even appear to be that great of an advantageous position. Which is what the officials even deemed at first. B/c close proximity is not an exact area, but a subjective rule.
But then, a TV viewer, called in and decided to have the officials further review the decision. Not one of us can say what was going on in that viewers head when he decided to call in. Maybe he is an incredible stickler for the rule, or maybe he could have had some vendetta against Woods
Who knows...
Sam Peel
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fukkin snitches
Adam3000
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Not racism necessarily, but b/c of his race and talent- he is overly scrutinized. If this is a nobody, probably no one even cares and nothing happens.
But if you look at his drop, it is about 2 feet back of the divot, which was not drastic and didnt even appear to be that great of an advantageous position. Which is what the officials even deemed at first. B/c close proximity is not an exact area, but a subjective rule.
But then, a TV viewer, called in and decided to have the officials further review the decision. Not one of us can say what was going on in that viewers head when he decided to call in. Maybe he is an incredible stickler for the rule, or maybe he could have had some vendetta against Woods
Who knows...
Regarding the race issue....no...just no. I'm not going to argue it anymore, because you have already made up your mind.
And in regards to the penalty, Tiger admitted in an interview that he dropped the ball 2 yards back of his original lie with the intent of positioning himself better for an approach. Because of this, they penalized him 2 strokes.
But the thing is, this is EASILY an offense that deserves disqualification if done intentionally. The only reason he didn't get disqualified is because a new rule that allows leniency when a rule infraction is done without knowledge. He thought he was making a legal play so he still gets a chance at redemption.
I had to shut of Dari and Mel on ESPN radio this morning because of how much they were crying about this like Tiger was wronged since the penalty happened based on what he said in an interview. He wasn't wronged, he was given a lot of leniency actually.
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night owl
Nothing wrong with the 2 shot penalty, but the discussion should be over people thinking he should be DQd or throw in the towel due to signing an incorrect scorecard. This is just an asinine stance because he was given the 2 shot penalty after his round and was not informed while on the course that the drop was under review.
he still has a chance breh
Adam3000
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If people are saying he should withdraw because of the incorrect scorecard well then yeah, that is beyond asinine.
But I think the issue is whether he should withdraw because he made the drop with the intention of improving his approach shot. He saw that his first approach was going to be long (had it not hit the flagpole) so he took a drop 2 yards back.
That really is a legit discussion to have, although I still think the answer is NO he should not withdraw because he did not know the rule. Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse, however there is clearly another rule that allows for a 2 stroke penalty instead of a DQ in case something like this happens, so the rules are definitely being followed here.
THE MACHINE
night owl
True...however all normal drops from an unplayable lie improve the approach shot at a 1 stroke penalty as long as it is no closer to the hole. In this case, 2 strokes were deducted. Like you said, the rules were followed.
I don't know why they just don't mandate that a drop of any kind needs to be viewed by a rules official. Have 5 or 6 scattered through the course on standby like they already do, and deploy them in carts for these situations. There aren't that many drops from the pros throughout the round that this would cause such a drastic halt of play.
goodU c00ns act like tiger doin this "for the black"
U c00ns act like tiger doin this "for the black"
its better than a cac we can atleast agree with that who the fukk you calling a c00n?
