Tim Duncan vs LeBron James all time list
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Is it the need to be contrarian that makes you all hate on Lebron so much
I just don't get it
I knew folks were weird when they trying to equate the Indians blowing a 3-1 lead to the Warriors blowing a 3-1 lead...To shyt on LeBron... shyt is pure desperation
Seriously kobes game is just prettier, but what skill does bron lack? Leadership he elevates his teammates, best passer in the league, great ball iq on top of being strong and athletic af. The only thing he is a Avg in is handles.
Duncan retired and this team didn't miss a beat. Duncan is very fortunate that he had Pop his whole career. Not trying to knock on him, but that helped him a lot as it provided consistency and stability, not to mention a great front office as well.
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KPJ Gonna Save Us
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Knicks: 93 til infinity
Call a baller who been compared to the greats since 17 an overachiever, brews
Lebron is probably the most skilled and creative passer in the top ten GOATs after Magic and one of the best finishers of all the time
Beat flopper also after manu
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Tim Duncan is silently the better player with more influence on his team... but no one will talk about him
he'll be an enigma
he'll be an enigma
Duncan's run from 1999-2005 was fantastic, one of the best ever. And he was the best player on 4, arguably 5 Finals teams. His longevity was incredible too. I think he's top-10 all-time.
2 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs (I'd argue he deserved 4-5) to 4 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs. They're at least in the same ballpark by those accolades.
But no way he's as high as Lebron. He was the man on both ends of the court, but he never controlled the game to the degree that Lebron does. Duncan was a bigger difference-maker on defense and rebounding than Lebron ever was, but Lebron's advantage in scoring and ball-handling is a much bigger gap than their gap in defense and rebounding. Lebron would from time to time put together one of those 3-block 3-steal fly-everywhere defensive games that tormented the other team (including against the Spurs in Game 2 of the 2013 Finals, where he somehow managed to block Duncan, Splitter, and Kawhi AND steal the ball from Parker, Ginobli, and Neal...all in one game while they held the Spurs to like 65 points halfway through the 4th and made Pop just give up). But Duncan never had the sort of 45-point elimination games, or the 30 point and 13 assist games where he seemed to control absolutely everything his team did on offense. Lebron couldn't protect the rim or score on the block as well as Duncan could, but he COULD do both of those things...while Duncan could never defend the perimeter, hit threes, or handle and distribute the ball anything like Lebron could.
Not to mention that Lebron is still writing his legacy.
Are you an idiot?
In 2008, Kobe had Gasol, Odom, Fisher, and Radmanovic starting. How the hell is that a worse squad then the 2007 Lebron team that was starting rookie Boobie Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, Gooden, and a washed Z who could only play 25 min/game?
Gasol AND Odom were both better than anyone on Lebron's squad....hell, I'd even take Fisher over both those guards - neither one was hardly able to stay in the league even without Lebron.
And that 2008 Duncan squad was starting 36-year-old Bruce Bowen, 34-year-old Michael Finley, and Fabricio Oberto. Ginobli was hurt and Horry was gone, so the best guy off the bench was 36-year-old Brent Barry. They were WASHED. The whole series was Duncan (22-17-5) and Parker (19-4-6) trying to beat the Lakers' whole squad by themselves....and the Lakers still needed the Spurs to miss game-winners in Games 1 and 4 to keep from being down 3-2 going into Game 6.
He brings nothing whatsoever to the Coli. I've never seen him make a single funny post. I've never seen him make a single intelligent post. I've never seen him add ANYTHING.
If anyone can come with ONE reputable post he made here, I'd love to see it. He didn't get stats like that for no reason.
2 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs (I'd argue he deserved 4-5) to 4 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs. They're at least in the same ballpark by those accolades.
But no way he's as high as Lebron. He was the man on both ends of the court, but he never controlled the game to the degree that Lebron does. Duncan was a bigger difference-maker on defense and rebounding than Lebron ever was, but Lebron's advantage in scoring and ball-handling is a much bigger gap than their gap in defense and rebounding. Lebron would from time to time put together one of those 3-block 3-steal fly-everywhere defensive games that tormented the other team (including against the Spurs in Game 2 of the 2013 Finals, where he somehow managed to block Duncan, Splitter, and Kawhi AND steal the ball from Parker, Ginobli, and Neal...all in one game while they held the Spurs to like 65 points halfway through the 4th and made Pop just give up). But Duncan never had the sort of 45-point elimination games, or the 30 point and 13 assist games where he seemed to control absolutely everything his team did on offense. Lebron couldn't protect the rim or score on the block as well as Duncan could, but he COULD do both of those things...while Duncan could never defend the perimeter, hit threes, or handle and distribute the ball anything like Lebron could.
Not to mention that Lebron is still writing his legacy.
Are you an idiot?
In 2008, Kobe had Gasol, Odom, Fisher, and Radmanovic starting. How the hell is that a worse squad then the 2007 Lebron team that was starting rookie Boobie Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, Gooden, and a washed Z who could only play 25 min/game?
Gasol AND Odom were both better than anyone on Lebron's squad....hell, I'd even take Fisher over both those guards - neither one was hardly able to stay in the league even without Lebron.
And that 2008 Duncan squad was starting 36-year-old Bruce Bowen, 34-year-old Michael Finley, and Fabricio Oberto. Ginobli was hurt and Horry was gone, so the best guy off the bench was 36-year-old Brent Barry. They were WASHED. The whole series was Duncan (22-17-5) and Parker (19-4-6) trying to beat the Lakers' whole squad by themselves....and the Lakers still needed the Spurs to miss game-winners in Games 1 and 4 to keep from being down 3-2 going into Game 6.
He brings nothing whatsoever to the Coli. I've never seen him make a single funny post. I've never seen him make a single intelligent post. I've never seen him add ANYTHING.
If anyone can come with ONE reputable post he made here, I'd love to see it. He didn't get stats like that for no reason.