timbaland names the top producers of all-time

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when east coast producers are in question, theyre dismissed if they don't have the hits, or if you just think they didn't have hits.

dj quik comes up, and youre talking something else. I see you.
Lmao,i dont see people acting like dj quik is a producer Don or that it;s blasphemous to not include him in top 10 lists etc. So i have nothing to say about the props he gets. But shout to tim for a great lists full of nikkas that actually put it down.
1.Some nikkas have never put anyone on worth talking about
2.Don't have alot of hits
3.And never produced the lion's share of a classic album so naw they need not be placed at the top.
 

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Lmao,i dont see people acting like dj quik is a producer Don or that it;s blasphemous to not include him in top 10 lists etc. So i have nothing to say about the props he gets. But shout to tim for a great lists full of nikkas that actually put it down.
1.Some nikkas have never put anyone on worth talking about
2.Don't have alot of hits
3.And never produced the lion's share of a classic album so naw they need not be placed at the top.

This and especially the bolded.

When you put all of the great producers under a microscope, there's only really a handful that put somebody on that's major. I mean, if we're being real and adhere to that criteria, then:

Large Professor should be getting much more props for introducing the world to Nas via "Live At The Barbecue" and producing 1/3 of Illmatic.

Jaz-O is Top 10 for introducing the world to Jay Z ("Hawaiian Sophie" and "Ain't No")

Dr. Dre is already noted for Snoop, his involvement with NWA, Eminem, 50

Puff Daddy/The Hitmen for Biggie

Shock G for putting on Pac

Marley Marl for Kane and Kool G. Rap

Many of the greats worked with the artists mentioned above after they initially impacted.
 

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Never said Missy Elliott ruled Hip Hop. You don't have to rule anything to be a factor.

Never said Tim made Jay Z or Ludacris either. To say he wasn't a huge part of either of their careers is false though. He had a hand in elevating both.


how was missy Elliot a factor? what hip-hop circles do you frequent where shes ever even a topic?

and for the MILLIONTH TIME, I ask you how did timbaland elevate jay-z?? the one example you gave, saw lesser results of jay's previous run. that's the opposite of elevation.



1.Some nikkas have never put anyone on worth talking about
2.Don't have alot of hits
3.And never produced the lion's share of a classic album so naw they need not be placed at the top.


okay?

who are you referring to.
 

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how was missy Elliot a factor? what hip-hop circles do you frequent where shes ever even a topic?

and for the MILLIONTH TIME, I ask you how did timbaland elevate jay-z?? the one example you gave, saw lesser results of jay's previous run. that's the opposite of elevation.






okay?

who are you referring to
.
Shoulda asked two weeks ago
 

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dont get the Swizz thing at all at all

never have

i dont agree with top 5. but swizz changed the sound. whether u like his music, his annoying ass adlibs, etc.... u can't deny he dramatically impacted the landscape of hip-hop music when he arrived.
 

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how was missy Elliot a factor? what hip-hop circles do you frequent where shes ever even a topic?

and for the MILLIONTH TIME, I ask you how did timbaland elevate jay-z?? the one example you gave, saw lesser results of jay's previous run. that's the opposite of elevation.






okay?

who are you referring to.

Missy Elliott is a factor in Hip Hop in that she actually had music that impacted and influenced the genre.

Timbaland elevated Jay Z with songs like "Big Pimpin" because nobody was rapping over beats that sounded like that. It elevated Jay's critical acclaim.
 

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Missy Elliott is a factor in Hip Hop in that she actually had music that impacted and influenced the genre.

Timbaland elevated Jay Z with songs like "Big Pimpin" because nobody was rapping over beats that sounded like that. It elevated Jay's critical acclaim.


what influence did missy have on hip-hop except for people adding that Arabian sound to a number of not-so-popular singles?4

AGAIN. how the F*CK did big pimpin elevate jay when his previous album was much bigger?

lol @ big pimpim elevating jay's critical acclaim. youre just pulling chit out ya ass.


Shoulda asked two weeks ago


in other words, youre not talking about anybody.
 

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what influence did missy have on hip-hop except for people adding that Arabian sound to a number of not-so-popular singles?4

AGAIN. how the F*CK did big pimpin elevate jay when his previous album was much bigger?

lol @ big pimpim elevating jay's critical acclaim. youre just pulling chit out ya ass.





in other words, youre not talking about anybody.
in other words i've lost interest in the convo
 

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i dont agree with top 5. but swizz changed the sound. whether u like his music, his annoying ass adlibs, etc.... u can't deny he dramatically impacted the landscape of hip-hop music when he arrived.

This is true.

Pete Rock had a huge problem with what Swizz was doing around '99. What Pete called "keyboard beats" kinda ushered out sampled production, and more artists started shifting to that sound. Financially, it made sense because you didn't have to worry about clearing any samples. But Pete was right about one thing, it brought in a lot of dudes who just plucked at keys with sound banks, but didn't even know how to play. With the success of DMX and the other stuff Swizz was working on, he definitely changed the sound for that time. Dudes like Rockwilder switched from being sample-based to strictly Korg Triton type shyt, and made a killing.
 

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what influence did missy have on hip-hop except for people adding that Arabian sound to a number of not-so-popular singles?4

AGAIN. how the F*CK did big pimpin elevate jay when his previous album was much bigger?

lol @ big pimpim elevating jay's critical acclaim. youre just pulling chit out ya ass.





in other words, youre not talking about anybody.

It was much more than some Arabian samples and a lot of those songs were popular:

Fat Joe- Lean Back
Eric Sermon- React
Freeway- Flipside
50 Cent- Just A Lil' Bit, Disco Inferno
Jadakiss feat. Mariah Carey- Make Me Wanna
DMX- Get It On The Floor
N.O.R.E.- Nothin'

^^^ Just to name a few

And you have J. Cole and Drake remaking Missy Elliott songs a decade and some change later.


"Big Pimpin" helped elevate Jay Z into the star that he became. It doesn't matter whether the album that came before it was bigger.
 
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It was much more than some Arabian samples and a lot of those songs were popular:

Fat Joe- Lean Back
Eric Sermon- React
Freeway- Flipside
50 Cent- Just A Lil' Bit, Disco Inferno
Jadakiss feat. Mariah Carey- Make Me Wanna
DMX- Get It On The Floor
N.O.R.E.- Nothin'

^^^ Just to name a few

And you have J. Cole and Drake remaking Missy Elliott songs a decade and some change later.


"Big Pimpin" helped elevate Jay Z into the star that he became. It doesn't matter whether the album that came before it was bigger.


man youre just repeating the same ole dumb chit. AGAIN I ASK, HOW THE FU*K did big pimpin elevate jay-z into a star when the previous album was much bigger? man youre becoming a joke.

I was talking about the Arabian vocal samples. that's what she did. youre giving her too much credit for most of those songs, and half of those joints weren't even really popular.

drake & j.cole are wack. they wouldn't survive in any real eras. hell, they wouldn't even survive this era if the labels weren't carrying them I'm not surprised that those rejects were listening to missy records.
 

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Timbaland helped boost Jay Z's career. That's not even really an argument.

not really. what Timbo beats propelled Jay further? Hard Knock Life was 45 King, most if not all of Jay's other bg hits have been from the Neptunes (I just Wanna Love U) or Kanye/Just Blaze. Timbos beats on jay albums were buried underneath the main singles. Swizz Beatz prob had a bigger hand in boosting Jay than Tim did
 

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not really. what Timbo beats propelled Jay further? Hard Knock Life was 45 King, most if not all of Jay's other bg hits have been from the Neptunes (I just Wanna Love U) or Kanye/Just Blaze. Timbos beats on jay albums were buried underneath the main singles. Swizz Beatz prob had a bigger hand in boosting Jay than Tim did


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man youre just repeating the same ole dumb chit. AGAIN I ASK, HOW THE FU*K did big pimpin elevate jay-z into a star when the previous album was much bigger? man youre becoming a joke.

I was talking about the Arabian vocal samples. that's what she did. youre giving her too much credit for most of those songs, and half of those joints weren't even really popular.

drake & j.cole are wack. they wouldn't survive in any real eras. hell, they wouldn't even survive this era if the labels weren't carrying them I'm not surprised that those rejects were listening to missy records.

You're repeating yourself. I've already provided examples and you're still asking the question.

It was more than a vocal sample. The vocal sample isn't even Arabic, it's Japanese. The beat itself is Bhangra influenced. And all of those songs were popular.

J. Cole and Drake are the two biggest rappers of this generation. Who cares whether they are wack or not. That's a whole other discussion.
 

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not really. what Timbo beats propelled Jay further? Hard Knock Life was 45 King, most if not all of Jay's other bg hits have been from the Neptunes (I just Wanna Love U) or Kanye/Just Blaze. Timbos beats on jay albums were buried underneath the main singles. Swizz Beatz prob had a bigger hand in boosting Jay than Tim did

"Dirt Off Your Shoulder" is a bigger hit than anything The Neptunes or Just Blaze did for Jay Z. It was the biggest single from The Black Album as was "Big Pimpin" was the biggest single from Vol. 3. At the time, "Big Pimpin" was the second biggest single of Jay Z's career. Swizz has only produced two hit songs from Jay and neither of them were bigger than the Timbaland joints. Your only legit argument here is Kanye who produced Jay Z's second biggest single overall with "Run This Town" and him producing "Takeover" (not a hit, but that diss helped elevate Jay).
 
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