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My favorite beat of his is that banger from The Game's first album "Put You On Game"

Danja actually did that track.

This is when he was making a majority of the beats and getting "co-production" credit for them because Tim was overseeing his process and talking on the tracks or rapping on them, lol.

He said he was making all those beats alone and then Tim would come in and ask him to adjust a few things and then when the track would come out, Tim would be listed as the producer. LOL!!
 

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Danja actually did that track.

This is when he was making a majority of the beats and getting "co-production" credit for them because Tim was overseeing his process and talking on the tracks or rapping on them, lol.

He said he was making all those beats alone and then Tim would come in and ask him to adjust a few things and then when the track would come out, Tim would be listed as the producer. LOL!!
although this cannot be proven either way obviously, i always take these kind of things for what they are: lesser known producer claiming he was the one making the beats while the other took credit... my problem with this is: what has danja been producing after he left Timbo in the dust ? hmm im inclined to say not much
 

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although this cannot be proven either way obviously, i always take these kind of things for what they are: lesser known producer claiming he was the one making the beats while the other took credit... my problem with this is: what has danja been producing after he left Timbo in the dust ? hmm im inclined to say not much

It happens a lot.

Difference with this situation, is that Danja was able to bring the same level of quality when he wasn't with Tim, during this era. And the beats sounded the same. But when Tim wasn't backed by Danja, you could really hear dude's absence. He was carrying Tim for 2-3 years. From 'I'm So Fly" all the way down to the Justin stuff like 'My Love". That was Danja's touch all over those beats.

He did these and they were literally the same sound that he was running with when he was with Tim, but Tim fell off crazy after Danja went out on his own.



 
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Danja actually did that track.

This is when he was making a majority of the beats and getting "co-production" credit for them because Tim was overseeing his process and talking on the tracks or rapping on them, lol.

He said he was making all those beats alone and then Tim would come in and ask him to adjust a few things and then when the track would come out, Tim would be listed as the producer. LOL!!

No, he didn't. Danja said no such thing and this whole myth has been debunked several times. Danja said he didn't really add much to "Put You On The Game":

had a little set up in the house so I started doing some tracks. Tim worked on the bus while I was working in the studio. He came back in the studio off that bus with that track and it blew everybody's head off in the studio. He came in and said, 'I got something.' I added on the choir, the piano, and stuff like that. The beat was definitely done by him, I was just in there but it was a competitive thing. It was always a competitive thing with us in the studio, that carried through the projects we worked on.

"I don't know where Tim finds his [sounds]. He had stuff like that just sitting. You could make five beats just off the sounds he has. His sound collection and the elements he would find are so crazy and so easy that it's a layup for him, he can just put stuff together. Once you get certain elements, sometimes they can almost work for any track.

"As far as myself, I have a massive amount of elements sometimes like little voice samples or little hits. You got them all pulled up in the studio, you can incorporate them into any track, but it takes time to search for all of that. Once you have them, it's amazing because it makes your track that much more interesting, that much more intricate, and those are the elements people will remember."


^^^ Breh literally says Timbaland made the beat. How do ya'll come in her to post lies to discredit GOATs?
 

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It happens a lot.

Difference with this situation, is that Danja was able to bring the same level of quality when he wasn't with Tim, during this era. And the beats sounded the same. But when Tim wasn't backed by Danja, you could really hear dude's absence. He was carrying Tim for 2-3 years. From 'I'm So Fly" all the way down to the Justin stuff like 'My Love". That was Danja's touch all over those beats.

He did these and they were literally the same sound that he was running with when he was with Tim, but Tim fell off crazy after Danja went out on his own.





I'll give you the trey track but other than that I'm surprised you follow this narrative, the other 2 beats are meh as hell, Timbo gave us classics for at least 10 years, I'll show him some respect from my corner regardless of the help he may have had on his way, as far as mainstream hip pop it's him Dre and the Neptunes as far as I'm concerned
 

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I'll give you the trey track but other than that I'm surprised you follow this narrative, the other 2 beats are meh as hell, Timbo gave us classics for at least 10 years, I'll show him some respect from my corner regardless of the help he may have had on his way, as far as mainstream hip pop it's him Dre and the Neptunes as far as I'm concerned

This.

And the fact that there's this narrative that Timbaland fell off after "Danja went on his own" is laughable. Danja helmed a whole Britney Spears album during the height of the run with Timbaland. It pales in comparison to Futuresex/Lovesounds. Danja without Timbaland exposes tthe difference between the two. Timbaland had productions that had NOTHING to do with Danja during that era that were crazy. Danja on his own is more in tune with Polow Da Don.
 
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I'll give you the trey track but other than that I'm surprised you follow this narrative, the other 2 beats are meh as hell, Timbo gave us classics for at least 10 years, I'll show him some respect from my corner regardless of the help he may have had on his way, as far as mainstream hip pop it's him Dre and the Neptunes as far as I'm concerned

I love all of this beats, lol.

Point is, Danja was still getting mad placements with A-list artists, and Tim fell off crazy. Dana's work picked up after Tim, Tim's work vanished after Danja.

And he was one of my favorite producers but I have to be honest about it. He went from doing tracks solo in the 90's, to all of his placements in the 00's being co-produced by people we hadn't heard of at the time. Everything he did after Danja, was also co-produced with some unknown dude who was just trying to get on. One of my people also sat in that slot with Tim for a few years too.
 

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No, he didn't. Danja said no such thing and this whole myth has been debunked several times. Danja said he didn't really add much to "Put You On The Game":

had a little set up in the house so I started doing some tracks. Tim worked on the bus while I was working in the studio. He came back in the studio off that bus with that track and it blew everybody's head off in the studio. He came in and said, 'I got something.' I added on the choir, the piano, and stuff like that. The beat was definitely done by him, I was just in there but it was a competitive thing. It was always a competitive thing with us in the studio, that carried through the projects we worked on.

"I don't know where Tim finds his [sounds]. He had stuff like that just sitting. You could make five beats just off the sounds he has. His sound collection and the elements he would find are so crazy and so easy that it's a layup for him, he can just put stuff together. Once you get certain elements, sometimes they can almost work for any track.

"As far as myself, I have a massive amount of elements sometimes like little voice samples or little hits. You got them all pulled up in the studio, you can incorporate them into any track, but it takes time to search for all of that. Once you have them, it's amazing because it makes your track that much more interesting, that much more intricate, and those are the elements people will remember."


^^^ Breh literally says Timbaland made the beat. How do ya'll come in her to post lies to discredit GOATs?

I worked with Danja on tracks for T.I. and Ciara. And sat in interviews with him when he said exactly what I posted.

The interview he went into the details in, was actually with SOHH. LOL!! And him doing the interview and saying what he did for the first time, was why he and Tim stop working together after that. Tim told him to recant the statements. There's another dude named JRoc who started working with Tim right after Danja, who had the exact same experience on mad records. It's not exactly a secret. Tim was taking credit for beats dude did, and slid dude into that "co-producer" seat, so he had to sue Tim for his bread because he wasn't getting paid for the work he did. Another dude I know named Wizz Dumb went through the exact same thing with Tim. Everyone in the business knows this is what Tim does now. Not back in the day, but now.

Danja literally spoke about 'My Love" and the session and said, "Tim will play a beat and the room will go crazy and then he'll look at me and be like "Your turn". This is in the sessions for Justin.

"I put my headphones on and started doing my thing then, Justin heard it through my headphones, took them off like 'What is that?' That's how that came about. Tim really tried me a little bit so I had to show him up. It's real simple. I think we have a lot of fun and that's why it works so well. It's just a big vibe session." But when the album came out, it said Timbaland produced the track.

Dude was literally making beats by himself, and Tim was taking credit. I saw most of this in person. And when he started speaking out about this, after Scott Storch said the same, that's when Tim had an issue with him and they parted ways. It's not about sh*ttin' on GOAT's. Tim is still one of the best ever. But nobody is gonna lie to cover up what was really going on with the process, lol.
 
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I worked with Danja on tracks for T.I. and Ciara. And sat in interviews with him when he said exactly what I posted.

The interview he went into the details in, was actually with SOHH. LOL!! And him doing the interview and saying what he did for the first time, was why he and Tim stop working together after that. Tim told him to recant the statements. There's another dude named JRoc who started working with Tim right after Danja, who had the exact same experience on mad records. It's not exactly a secret. Tim was taking credit for beats dude did, and slid dude into that "co-producer" seat, so he had to sue Tim for his bread because he wasn't getting paid for the work he did. Another dude I know named Wizz Dumb went through the exact same thing with Tim. Everyone in the business knows this is what Tim does now. Not back in the day, but now.

Danja literally spoke about 'My Love" and the session and said, "Tim will play a beat and the room will go crazy and then he'll look at me and be like "Your turn". This is in the sessions for Justin.

"I put my headphones on and started doing my thing then, Justin heard it through my headphones, took them off like 'What is that?' That's how that came about. Tim really tried me a little bit so I had to show him up. It's real simple. I think we have a lot of fun and that's why it works so well. It's just a big vibe session." But when the album came out, it said Timbaland produced the track.

Dude was literally making beats by himself, and Tim was taking credit. I saw most of this in person. And when he started speaking out about this, after Scott Storch said the same, that's when Tim had an issue with him and they parted ways. It's not about sh*ttin' on GOAT's. Tim is still one of the best ever. But nobody is gonna lie to cover up what was really going on with the process, lol.

Breh, "My Love" is literally the only song where Danja actually did the beat. Tim programmed some sounds into the keyboard and Danja put the beat together. Tim beat boxed on it, but it was Danja who put that together.

And again, you're wrong. J-Roc did not start working with Tim right after Danja. J-Roc was working with Tim as far back as Shock Value 1, which also had Danja productions.

You're doing a disservice to the whole integrity of production. It makes no sense for Danja to make up entire stories to accommodate Tim especially years when they weren't even working together any more.

Wizz Dumb got his credits as did Danja. You have no clue as to what you're talking about. And to prove it most of what Wizz Dumb is credited with are solo productions. The credits say this. "Tomorrow In A Bottle" is credited to Wizz and that track is on a Timbaland album (Shock Value 2). Wizz is also credited onthe bonus track from Lil' Wayne's C4. There's Jozzy's "Tryna Wife" featuring Mase.

Timbaland didn't take credit from Storch. There's like two songs where Storch wasn't credited. He co-wrote "Cry Me A River" and co-produced "Hola Hovito". These weren't cases of Tim taking credit, these were on the respective labels.
 

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I love all of this beats, lol.

Point is, Danja was still getting mad placements with A-list artists, and Tim fell off crazy. Dana's work picked up after Tim, Tim's work vanished after Danja.

And he was one of my favorite producers but I have to be honest about it. He went from doing tracks solo in the 90's, to all of his placements in the 00's being co-produced by people we hadn't heard of at the time. Everything he did after Danja, was also co-produced with some unknown dude who was just trying to get on. One of my people also sat in that slot with Tim for a few years too.

Wrong.

Tim still had placements on Drake, Jay Z, and PCD 2008-2009. Then Timbaland had a huge resurgence in 2013 with 20/20 Experience, Magna Carta Holy Grail, and Beyonce's self titled album.
 
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