Tinashe, AzealiaBanks & Dawn Richard Also Felt Like The VMA's Snubbed Them (Tweets)

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It's obvious that you, an adult male, have a creppy obsession/crush with/on Tinashe. 95% of all the stuff that you typed has nothing to do with tinashe not deserving an award in my opinion, most of the worlds opinion( they clearly don't think she deserves it yet, if they did, she would be much more popular and selling more), and in mtv's opinion. There is nothing you can do or say that will change that.You care way too much to type all of that stuff out, but I'll play along until I get bored.

1. You can't force people to buy someone's music, all labels can do is promote it and hope that people buy it. Out of the 3 in the thread title ab and dawn are the only 2 who lack promotion. Tinashe gets just as much promotion as those other artist you listed did when they first started. People obviously just do not want to buy her music.

I don't think many black soul singers are signed because that genre doesn't usually make labels the most money, and when they are signed, they are usually not promoted as much as pop singers because the labels don't think they will make them a lot of money. White "soul" music is considered pop and sometimes people call it r& b which is the direction that pop is heading in. The old dance/white pop sound is out. R&B and hip hop influenced "pop" songs are the only pop songs that are becoming popular. ex. Ari's singles.

The white nick/disney shows did much better than Zendaya & keke's shows because Zendaya & keke's shows were boring and got cancelled. That's so raven (a black show) was bigger than all of their shows . Zenday actually never had a disney show, it was mainly the white girls show & guess which one out of Zenday and the white girl is more popular? Zendaya is. Check their instagram followers. Ari, Miely, and demi left and already had a huge fan base because of their hit shows. Ari and Demi know how to sing, very well actually. Miley's singing ability is very questionable, personally I do not like her voice, but little girls went crazy over her and her show. Ari came out making hit singles. Demi is known for her belting ability. Zendaya is 18 looks like a kid and is still doing kid shows, that's really hurting her, plus she is trying to be a singer, but doesn't know how to sing well. She is disney popular and has at least 10 million followers on instagram, but no one wants to buy her music because it's not good. Have you heard it? Keke is acting and is a main character along with Ari in the new show "Scream Queens" I'm expecting that show to do very well. She has also been acting in other movies. I bet you didn't know that though. because You haven't been checking for them like most other people.

Rih Beyonce and Nicki are nominated because they are popular Kendrick as well, just like the popular white people are nominated only because they are popular. They (rih nicki beyonce) were not getting nominated when they first came out. Tinashe has to be patient humble & wait her turn just like everyone else insted of saying she deserves an award because she doesn't. The single that she wanted an award for didn't even become popular. lol There is no hope for the other 2 because they are not being promoted as much as she is.

Idc what nicki says. Nicki only cares about black people when white people aren't caring about nicki. The 2 black women in music who have the most influence on pop culture are awarded for it. Rih and Bey. Tinashe has no influence yet and it's possible that she never will.

2. Tinashe is getting the same amount of promotion Rih was when she first came out, but tinashe isn't making hit songs like rih did. Again, you can't force people to buy music, no one forced them to buy rih's songs and not buy tinashe's people obviously don't like her as much as you do which is why she doesn't deserve anything.
Bey started off in dc, she already large fan base when she went solo b/c they were one of the biggest girl groups. I'm pretty sure dc wasn't getting nominated for many things when they first came out.

3. The stans/fans fault. They think there's only room for their "fave".

4. Her favoriting those tweets is not an example of humble. Her saying that she deserves and award is not an example of her being humble. The way she acts when she knows that the camera is filiming her is not an example of her being humble/sweet. Sorry to crush your dreams. lol

I don't like her singing voice and I don't like most of her songs. Neither does the rest of the world, if they did, she would be bigger/popular. She suffers no lack of promotion, unlike AB and Dawn. That label works hard to promote her and get her all types of endorsment deals because it makes the money. She was selling pro active before her first single came out, but you think she lacks promotion. They have been paying people to write positive articles about her, making sure that she goes to all of the popular radio stations to get interviewed, getting her spots on day time/ late night shows to perform all hands on deck when that song isn't even popular and the people whose show she is on don't even know who she is and have never even heard the song, making sure that her ads were on the side bare on youtube and playing before most of the youtube videos on the background for popular sites like wshh, and getting her a spot on tour with nicki, getting her deals with ralph lauren, and in all types of magazines. But you claim that she lacks promotion? LOL

She deserves an award, but just got to 1 million followers on instagram. The number of sales is always less than the number of social media followers for a new person. Obviously she is not well known. It will be a while before she gets an award (if she ever gets one), especially without a hit. Sucks for you, I know you care so much.
So basically your going to ignore what I said and attack me personally because you can't respond back, but I generally make long posts about what ever but not on here.. But your trying to ignore the racism in the music industry like they don't have a point.

Umm this is not secret it's basic shyt she made public, just go to her Ustream and youtube channel. I didn't post anything out of ordinary at all. If I posted about Rihanna and Beyonce that would be fine to you, You was just unware how much you don't even know basic shyt about her, her music. or wouldn't think she would have fans and supporters that would go that far in. I just told you she very interactive with fans. Before 2 on blew up she always has had a small fan base because of her mixtapes and etc. She literally use to do this all the time, but the point is you want her to be arrogant when she's down to earth.



"I don't like most of her songs. Neither does the rest of the world, if they did, she would be bigger/popular. She suffers no lack of promotion,"

There's a difference between not liking and not knowing... Most people know "2 on",

You know damn well you don't know anything about her 60 plus song discography, her musical topics and etc. If I ask you to tell me the meaning of her mixtapes or album you couldn't tell me, If you was aware of her music but dislike it you would still be able to talk about it, If I ask you to name and give the meaning of 10 songs you couldn't......... .Most people aren't familiar with her style or don't know she even has music out sided of 2 on and thinks she makes just makes twerk music...... That is trouble with promotion..... overall as an artists people are just now discovering "Tinashe"

One of reasons I respond to you because you have a larger dislike of her.... before we even talk about her music you think she's not humble, you want to dislike her. So even tho she actually has a point with there clear racism in the music industry, she wrong, you don't like her...

Also last years around the summer there was a bunch of articles comparing her or saying she's the next Beyonce, Rihanna, Janet, and Ciara.. This put a bad taste in those artists stans mounts. The industry over compare black artists because of race. Her music is actually nothing like Beyonce, Rihanna, and Ciara but Black women are put boxes.

Last year I seen Tinashe retweet an review a article that praise her, but criticize Beyonce, those idiots started attacking her like she wrote the article, after awhile it went from Tinashe retweet an article to...... Tinashe shade Beyonce I literally seen that take folded. Mean Tinashe actually stans Beyonce himself.

You brought of that Ciara shyt, and said she shaded Ciara when she didn't. Then you criticized her favoring tweets and said she's not humble/sweet. when celebs do that it's acting like normal people, that's literally being humble/sweet. You want to diss like her, I just post overwhelming evidence how sweet she is you still want believe she's not humble/sweat that crazy.


I just told how she's very active with fans, if fans want, favorite, follows, replies and etc she may actually do it. Normally celebs are too stuck up do stuff like that. Then she use to dm fans thanking them for support, Saying she not humble is Ludicrous. Then I just told you she used to be bully in school, She sings about the stuff like in her music. So even from an artistic stand point she against bulling and trolling also it gets no more ironic.


This reason why these post are long because your trying to ignore How racist the music industry is. And How clearly black women being snub, And said overtly untrue stuff about Tinashe, and you aren't aware how oblivious you are. But you actually tried to respond hold you positions.



But back the awards............. first off lets back up.............. Flying Lotus, OK Go, Childish Gambino, Fetty Wap, Vance Joy ,George Ezra, James Bay and bunch other equal or less popular artist than Tinashe, Azealia Banks and Dawn Richard where nominated so your argument falls apart on itself. Twigs was the only black woman outside the triad to get a nod. That's clearly not a popularity contest. Black Women even ones with high reviews was snubbed.

I posted 13 white women who went at least gold, since 2009 and only 3 black women...... but you think that's normal and the music industry is not racist as hell?

:mindblown: ....then

"I don't think many black soul singers are signed because that genre doesn't usually make labels the most money, and when they are signed, they are usually not promoted as much as pop singers because the labels don't think they will make them a lot of money. White "soul" music is considered pop and sometimes people call it r& b which is the direction that pop is heading in. The old dance/white pop sound is out. R&B and hip hop influenced "pop" songs are the only pop songs that are becoming popular. ex. Ari's singles."

:snoop: that's call racism, you just said White "soul" music is consider pop, but black soul singers doesn't make labels money and not promoted as pop singers...... that's call racism, because it's margin the black artists, Same music but different treatment because of race.

And actually your wrong EDM is the popular sound, but I'm not going get into that..

And your Disney/Nick response is the run around, The White ex Disney/Nick,stars having more success but Black one aren't. It's generally harder for Black artists to come up that way. So you made a long paragraph just ignoring and trying not to say the obvious.

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Ok when Rihanna first came out vs Tinashe, you bruh it up


Bruh Rihanna Pon de Replay video debut the same day it became the single both on May 05, Than her second single "If It's Lovin' that You Want" came less than only 4 month later in Sep 05

2 on released in Jan 2014 it didn't get a video until late March 2014, It was the single until late August that year. Pretend release in late August, but the video didn't drop until the end of Sep, a week before the album drop.

What planet they had the same promo? You was already incorrect when you said Bey, and Rih wasn't getting nods when they came up. They didn't have to say anything the music industry was different back then, multiple Black Women where getting more looks and promo. Labels aren't putting as much Money into artists, and Black Women are having a harder time.


Also do realize most of her videos for her album where self directed and low budget because her label wasn't funding. Her and her team had to a lot promo them self,

Tinashe Talks About Her New Music Video for
"“So when I know my label’s not going to produce music videos, I’ll either make them myself or I’ll find people that I think are cool and reach out to them directly. I’m like, ‘fukk it. I’ll just do it.’”


This her album trailer, then the points you brought up are normal stuff that even smaller artists get,


To sum up she has a point about racism, but you already had a terrible reason to dislike her, So your not trying to her what has to say. She's not humble/sweet what? But you throwing shade at those Black female artists like there not working hard and it's not more difficult for Black Women in the music industry in 2015.


and judging by below you proably a Rihanna stan.
She doesn't/didn't deserve anything either. Most people out today don't deserve awards for the mess that they put out. Miley has been around much longer and is more popular than tinashe, ab and dawn, so ofcourse the popular person will win. That's how most award shows go these days. Tinashe, ab, and dawn are not as well known and people barely buy their music. People barely buy your music, but you deserve a music/music video award? LOL

In my opinion, no video this year deserved video of the year except for bbhmm by rih, but that missed the deadline, so she'll be accepting that award next year.
Beside I mention how lesser known artist were nominated, That last post wasn't about Tinashe it was about Nicki that's why I respond it to you there,

You called Nicki video a soft porno and said she doesn't deserve anything for it and that's why she didn't get it.

Meanwhile Miley Cyrus won video of year last year and she's the awards host this year...... :deadmanny:

Therefore your criticism of Nicki makes no sense..... Black Woman are being snub, Notice Taylor at the end came out supporting Nicki's point.
 
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