Tips For Trying To Get Things Done In The Community

[Captain Crunch]

First off, the NOI is not about getting the community on their feet, no matter what they say...I know NOI brothers and have read tons of stuff and written on them...they are not about black unity and fixing poverty; they are black capitalists that believe in oppressing a select group of blacks to continue capitalist investment. Don't let the rhetoric fool you like it did Malik....

I'll look into that
Thanks for the input though

 

[kp404]

I'll look into that
Thanks for the input though

Read The Messenger by Karl Evanz and An Original Man by Claude Clegg...there are other books too like Modern Blackness where NOI discuss their disgust for dark skinned Africans and their savagery and uncivilized nature...they are a bunch of black elitists that hate black skin breh

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Met up with a local NOI a week ago, I'm trying to talk to them about reworking their forum to make it accessible to everyone. It's basically a study group where religion is bought up, instead I'd like if it's just simply a non-secular town hall meeting to discuss strategies on how to establish businesses; schools, real estate; political protection and pool together resources collectively to establish it. Also, how do you guys get other groups(churches; institutions, etc) to work together on a common agenda.

That's dope. Even though the other breh said not to, still reach out to them to see what'll happen. I tried to get in contact with the Atlanta branch, but I never got a response back. I might to just ride down there one day and see what's up.

 

[kp404]

That's dope. Even though the other breh said not to, still reach out to them to see what'll happen. I tried to get in contact with the Atlanta branch, but I never got a response back. I might to just ride down there one day and see what's up.

I didn't say to totally shut them out, but you have to be very careful around NOI brothers. Some of them are cool on an individual level, but as an organization, they are EXACTLY what they seem, so be wary.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I didn't say to totally shut them out, but you have to be very careful around NOI brothers. Some of them are cool on an individual level, but as an organization, they are EXACTLY what they seem, so be wary.

I'm a little confused breh, this is what you just said about them:

First off, the NOI is not about getting the community on their feet, no matter what they say...I know NOI brothers and have read tons of stuff and written on them...they are not about black unity and fixing poverty; they are black capitalists that believe in oppressing a select group of blacks to continue capitalist investment. Don't let the rhetoric fool you like it did Malik....

Read The Messenger by Karl Evanz and An Original Man by Claude Clegg...there are other books too like Modern Blackness where NOI discuss their disgust for dark skinned Africans and their savagery and uncivilized nature...they are a bunch of black elitists that hate black skin breh

You pretty much said they don't like dark skinned Africans, they're not about black unity, and they want to suppress black people. Those are pretty damning words breh

 

[kp404]

I'm a little confused breh, this is what you just said about them:





You pretty much said they don't like dark skinned Africans, they're not about black unity, and they want to suppress black people. Those are pretty damning words breh

Yea all that is true and its well documented in their papers and speeches. I'm saying that if someone is holding a clothing drive or food drive, ain't nothing wrong with getting involved with that...

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Yea all that is true and its well documented in their papers and speeches. I'm saying that if someone is holding a clothing drive or food drive, ain't nothing wrong with getting involved with that...

So a group you believe that wants to oppress black people and dislikes dark skin black people should not be shunned :word:?

 

[kp404]

So a group you believe that wants to oppress black people and dislikes dark skin black people should not be shunned :word:?

There's nothing wrong with volunteering at a community shelter and feeding the poor if they are there too...I'm talking about joining up with them, embracing their values, using their rhetoric, etc. Two different things we are talking about here.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

There's nothing wrong with volunteering at a community shelter and feeding the poor if they are there too...I'm talking about joining up with them, embracing their values, using their rhetoric, etc. Two different things we are talking about here.

IONO breh. For example I wouldn't go to a tea sponsored charity event for obvious reasons. I don't really know much bout the NOI, but if what you say is true, then that's some pretty damning words.

How do you feel about Farrakhan or Khalid Muhammad? I think I might read through those books you mentioned tonight though

 

[Taadow]

Find like minded individuals and start your own organization to make a difference.

This here.

Find out what's missing, and fill that need.
(note: it never hurts doing something for teh kids, mayne.)

 

[kp404]

IONO breh. For example I wouldn't go to a tea sponsored charity event for obvious reasons. I don't really know much bout the NOI, but if what you say is true, then that's some pretty damning words.

How do you feel about Farrakhan or Khalid Muhammad? I think I might read through those books you mentioned tonight though

Go online and read the speech Farrakhan gave at the million man march in 1995; it is filled with insults, condescending words, and mysticism bullshyt. The NOI have been saying these things, shaking fingers at blacks when in fact they only want their money; he is a new age Booker T. Washington, except Washington didn't have an organization famous for sacrificing people in rituals in Detroit in the 1930s and beating people to death if they crossed them in the wrong time. All the NOI does is promote capitalist ventures and deny that Africans are true humans. Farrakhan is a racist and a con artist and so was Elijah Muhammad and his predecessor Wallace D. Fard.

As for me, if I'm at a shelter helping and some of the brothers there are NOI, I'm there to help the people, I'm not fukking with the NOI

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Go online and read the speech Farrakhan gave at the million man march in 1995; it is filled with insults, condescending words, and mysticism bullshyt. The NOI have been saying these things, shaking fingers at blacks when in fact they only want their money; he is a new age Booker T. Washington, except Washington didn't have an organization famous for sacrificing people in rituals in Detroit in the 1930s and beating people to death if they crossed them in the wrong time. All the NOI does is promote capitalist ventures and deny that Africans are true humans. Farrakhan is a racist and a con artist and so was Elijah Muhammad and his predecessor Wallace D. Fard.

As for me, if I'm at a shelter helping and some of the brothers there are NOI, I'm there to help the people, I'm not fukking with the NOI

again breh, if you believe all of those things to be true, then it's safe to say you think the NOI should be Shunned. Like I said, I don't know much about the NOI, but you're saying they were having human sacrifices and shyt

EDIT: and it's been a while since I listened to the million man march speech, but I don't remember it being that bad. I'll watch the video again some time this week.

 

[kp404]

again breh, if you believe all of those things to be true, then it's safe to say you think the NOI should be Shunned. Like I said, I don't know much about the NOI, but you're saying they were having human sacrifices and shyt

EDIT: and it's been a while since I listened to the million man march speech, but I don't remember it being that bad. I'll watch the video again some time this week.

Read the transcript instead. And yes my Masters Thesis was partly on all of this stuff so I've seen what they've done and read what they have said. I shun their group, ideology, and everything they stand for.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Read the transcript instead. And yes my Masters Thesis was partly on all of this stuff so I've seen what they've done and read what they have said. I shun their group, ideology, and everything they stand for.

Breh, this is why your words are confusing me. I highlighted the bolded from your previous comment. But not even 10 minutes ago you said this:

I didn't say to totally shut them out, but you have to be very careful around NOI brothers. Some of them are cool on an individual level, but as an organization, they are EXACTLY what they seem, so be wary.

So you don't totally shut them out, but you shun them and everything they stand for.

And why should I read the transcript instead of watching the video. Did they cut out something he said in the video

 

[kp404]

Breh, this is why your words are confusing me. I highlighted the bolded from your previous comment. But not even 10 minutes ago you said this:



So you don't totally shut them out, but you shun them and everything they stand for.

And why should I read the transcript instead of watching the video. Did they cut out something he said in the video

Like I said before, I would work a drive or something and if they show up I would still work it. Its not the same as shunning everything they stand for. As for transcripts, I like them better when analyzing speeches because I can read every word and won't miss anything and have to keep rewinding.