Tmac: Jaamal Tinsley has better handles than Kyrie

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eh.. this is a who you prefer topic. no real way to measure this shyt. basically every NYC guard had handles like both

Im just glad Tinsley got the shout out... He was mean with it

FYI Kyrie never moved the needle with me as best ever. Anybody who grew up off the And 1 era aint really THAT amazed by him.
We acknowledge him of course
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kyrie is a beast and can be considered goat

but i dont believe he can clearly be labeled as "best ball handler" pause

many others did more with less ... kyrie has been on stacked teams for half his career and has been 100% "stoppable"

I would take a 2 guards deliberate handle over most PGs, even though it doesnt look as flashy with useless movements added
kyrie has the most sauce on his moves I would say... similar to how people saw Iverson in the early 2000s
What does Kyrie being on “stacked teams” have to do with his dribbling ability?

Him being stoppable is all to do with his inability to stay healthy and limitations as a floor general, and not anything to do with his handle (who he’s without a peer).
 

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You for sure can’t question shyt so you right

You know y’all be trying to make jokes and shyt but I just don’t understand how yall, aka nikkas who ain’t came nowhere near playing at a high level will try to argue against nikkas who was actually in the league

Of that’s how Mac fell that’s how he feel, that’s on him Kyrie and Jamal to work it out
There are an infinite amount of problems with this logic -

Playing at a high level does NOT equal one’s ability to analyze the game, much less be objective about it. Just because you make the league it doesn’t make you some omniscient, non-partisan mediator of the game. Because truth be told, one of the biggest determining factors in making the NBA is having an unbridled sense of confidence, where you aren’t restricted by what’s realistic. For that very reason, we know that athletes are less likely going to be objective because they wouldn’t be where they’re at if they were.

It’s why you have all these old heads so desperate to put their respective era above every other because it all stems from the belief/confidence they have in themselves and what they’ve achieved.

Furthermore, NBA players are human at the end in the day. They’re going to contradict themselves, they’re going to change their minds depending on the day and they’re going to be stubborn and not budge on their position even when their views don’t match up with reality.

Most importantly, you’re going to have a grand spectrum of opinions, where one player is at one end and another player is right at the other, on any particular matter. For that simple reason, you can’t take a player’s word as gospel because there’ll be another player who directly opposes them.

Watch the games and think for yourself.

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Even though everyone is against Mac’s take, it is kinda cool that Tinsley gets some light shone on him, because I don’t think I’ve heard his name mentioned since the Malice.
 

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This the type of shyt I was referring to :mjlol:

only thee city

that's the missing ingredient in the bop

nikkas now don't get drunk or high like the old heads they are strict professionals

that's the shyte that had them moving different

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There are an infinite amount of problems with this logic -

Playing at a high level does NOT equal one’s ability to analyze the game, much less be objective about it. Just because you make the league it doesn’t make you some omniscient, non-partisan mediator of the game. Because truth be told, one of the biggest determining factors in making the NBA is having an unbridled sense of confidence, where you aren’t restricted by what’s realistic. For that very reason, we know that athletes are less likely going to be objective because they wouldn’t be where they’re at if they were.

It’s why you have all these old heads so desperate to put their respective era above every other because it all stems from the belief/confidence they have in themselves and what they’ve achieved.

Furthermore, NBA players are human at the end in the day. They’re going to contradict themselves, they’re going to change their minds depending on the day and they’re going to be stubborn and not budge on their position even when their views don’t match up with reality.

Most importantly, you’re going to have a grand spectrum of opinions, where one player is at one end and another player is right at the other, on any particular matter. For that simple reason, you can’t take a player’s word as gospel because there’ll be another player who directly opposes them.

Watch the games and think for yourself.

:hubie:
NBA players are just Coli Brehs who made it.
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