Today's Trump Pardons...

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What a parade of sleaze

I have heard a lot about Milken, and his outreach, but he didn't need a damn pardon.

All this is symbolic, but the message is dangerous.
 

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I can only judge a man by his actions publicly, and since his prostate cancer diagnosis he has been instrument in getting funding to fight the disease.

He actually has also taught math clubs for inner city kids.

So there is Mike Milken, the guy who was able to write a cheque for a 600 million dollar fine on the spot...and there is Mike Milken, who has devoted most of the rest of his life to philanthropic endeavours.

We can be fair and see where he has come or we can always judge him as the junk bond king.

Your call.

1. So
2. So
3. I don't get impressed by ppl who write checks drawn on accounts that were filled due to illegal/corrupt behavior.

I'm glad he's devoting his time to charity and good works, as opposed to theft and weakening the foundations of our modern financial system. My issue with this is that he's not deserving of a pardon. If good works after release was all you needed to do, then there should be tens of thousands of people getting pardoned. And he served all of 2 years. You make it seem like he suffered in prison for decades. 2 years. I bet half the people on Wall Street would take 2 yrs in prison and a 600 million dollar fine if it means they got to keep 1 billion after being released.
 

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and you know why trump did this? to "set the tone" for when he pardons stone :scusthov: this is blatantly tied to that

It may be part of a ploy to normalize his subjective pardoning of corrupt figures, but I think he's really using this pardon as a bribe to get dirt on Obama and "corrupt Democrats."

Ask yourself why else would Trump, who has made it clear he uses his presidential powers only for his own personal gain, pardon a Democrat convicted of corruption? This is a man who leads "lock them up" chants at the mere suggestion that a Democrat did something wrong.

Its because he knows the guy is corrupted, susceptible to bribes and would happily go along with Trump's personal agendas against his former party in exchange for getting out of jail. If hed do it to the duly elected President of Ukraine, and get away with it in a formal impeachment trial, you can bet your ass hed do it to a shunned, compromised convicted felon Democrat he just released from prison. I can almost guarantee Trump made that "i need a favor though...so about Obama" call before the man had a chance to hug his own family.

This is the country we now live in under Trump, Barr, McConnell. A straight up banana republic where no information can be trusted and elections are now decided by lies, conspiracies, corruption, smears, cheating, disruption, bribes, back-door deals and money rather than the free will of an informed public electorate hat Democracy relies on. This is exactly where Trump, McConnell, Fox News and the Tea Party/MAGA Republican party wanted to reduce our political discourse to so that they can "own libs" at the expense of their own integrity.

Democrats should not reduce themselves to the behavior of Trump or Republicans but they need to wake up and fight back. Stop thinking all these formal processes that Trump, Barr and McConnell are systematically corrupting anyway or "the American people" too stupid to think critically about Trumps lies and smears are gonna protect Democracy and put a stop to this shyt.

To some extent, within the scope of truth and ethics, they gotta be willing to get in the dirt also smear and expose the ever lasting shyt out of Trump and these Republicans. They have to be willing to engineer public opinion the same way they do. At least until this shyt is over with.
 

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1. So
2. So
3. I don't get impressed by ppl who write checks drawn on accounts that were filled due to illegal/corrupt behavior.

I'm glad he's devoting his time to charity and good works, as opposed to theft and weakening the foundations of our modern financial system. My issue with this is that he's not deserving of a pardon. If good works after release was all you needed to do, then there should be tens of thousands of people getting pardoned. And he served all of 2 years. You make it seem like he suffered in prison for decades. 2 years. I bet half the people on Wall Street would take 2 yrs in prison and a 600 million dollar fine if it means they got to keep 1 billion after being released.
My point is actually different. I don't honestly care about the pardon one way or another.

I was simply saying, now people are going to try to vilify him, when the man he was and the man he is now are different. I simply wouldn't lump him in with the others who got pardoned.
 

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Damn, never seen Anderson get worked up like that. He's right though, oh NOW the justice system is corrupt. But not when they were profiling black people and giving them ridiculous prison sentences sometimes for crimes they didn't even commit. Dude is trash and so are all these other clowns crying about the justice system. Can't say the system is corrupt without addressing the black plight.
 
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