Todd Duboef explains top rank business model: Not necessarily the best against the best

[krackdagawd]

Are u trying to be dumb or what? Cotto fought and beat Margo right b4 he fought Floyd. Was he coming off a bad performance?

I'm not being dumb, I'm using your logic. That's the only dumb thing in this equation.

Nobody said shyt about people being undefeated moron. ODLH wasn't coming off a loss and wasn't weight drained when he fought Floyd. And umm Floyd had been trying to get a fight with him for the longest. That's why he left Top Rank Genius duh

Oscar was one fight from being stopped by Hopkins, you use that same logic to discredit Manny's wins nikka

Oscar fighting at a weight he agreed to is a problem but Floyd not making the agreed up weight in the Marquez fight isn't a problem right?

Hatton beat Collazo by UD idiot and he was undefeated when he fought Floyd

Did I say Hatton lost or Collazo exposed him? Strong grasp of the English language you got there friend.

 

[BlackMajik]

I'm not being dumb, I'm using your logic. That's the only dumb thing in this equation.


Oscar was one fight from being stopped by Hopkins, you use that same logic to discredit Manny's wins nikka

Oscar fighting at a weight he agreed to is a problem but Floyd not making the agreed up weight in the Marquez fight isn't a problem right?



Did I say Hatton lost or Collazo exposed him? Strong grasp of the English language you got there friend.

Ok ur on sum BS I just asked u was Cotto coming off a bad performance and u side-stepped that lol

The gap between the BHOP fight and the Floyd fight is like 3 years with a fight in between nikka are u dumb

JMM didn't have to accept the fight with Floyd if I'm not mistaken

And lol @ getting exposed in a fight u still win by UD. Hatton was THE MAN @ 140 whether u wanna admit it or not

And Manny still ducked Shane

nikka that's it Im done arguing with ya moronic ass. Last time replying to u

Didn't refute shyt I said

 

[krackdagawd]

Ok ur on sum BS I just asked u was Cotto coming off a bad performance and u side-stepped that lol

So Cotto beating a Margarito whose had just got his orbital bone sent to the bushes by Pacman is some huge feat? He ironically won that fight off of eye swelling but let me guess Margarito wasn't damaged goods then?

How about we discuss Trout having an easier time with Cotto than Floyd did.

This is the problem when you try to discredit a fighter's win friend, the same can be done to your fighter.

The gap between the BHOP fight and the Floyd fight is like 3 years with a fight in between nikka are u dumb

So by your logic a fighter isn't damaged goods as long as there is a 3 year difference in between? Would you like me to son you with your own logic some more or nah? I'm pretty sure you already know where I'm going with this.

JMM didn't have to accept the fight with Floyd if I'm not mistaken

JMM agreed to a catch weight, which Floyd did not make. Of course this isn't an issue but Oscar fighting at a weight he agreed upon is.

Funny how catch weights are only a problem when Manny uses them.

And lol @ getting exposed in a fight u still win by UD. Hatton was THE MAN @ 140 whether u wanna admit it or not

I'm going to go ahead and assume you didn't even see that fight.

To quote your boy Mayweather "Collazo beat Hatton he got a gift in that fight"

And Manny still ducked Shane

nikka that's it Im done arguing with ya moronic ass. Last time replying to u

Didn't refute shyt I said

This is why you shouldn't come into a gun fight with a nerf gun friend.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

In actual relation the video did anyone notice DeBouf couldn't pick a fantasy fight at 147 when he's got Desert Storm and JMM? Theres 5-7 welters on goldenboy that would lead to great fights if they fought bradley or JMM. I wonder if DeBouf even cares between a golden boy/TR fight unless its floyd/pac.

 

[patscorpio]

Are u trying to be dumb or what? Cotto fought and beat Margo right b4 he fought Floyd. Was he coming off a bad performance?

Nobody said shyt about people being undefeated moron. ODLH wasn't coming off a loss and wasn't weight drained when he fought Floyd. And umm Floyd had been trying to get a fight with him for the longest. That's why he left Top Rank Genius duh

Hatton beat Collazo by UD idiot and he was undefeated when he fought Floyd

And lol @ Floyd draining Canelo. The fight b4 he weighed 153 lbs. 1 lbs is draining now??? Try again lol

U must think ur talking to someone who doesn't know boxing

And nice job avoiding Manny's ducking of Mosley lol

at the bolded...self ether is always the most potent ether

 

[RedBull]

at the bolded...self ether is always the most potent ether

You're another one. With your bull, the brother didn't ether himself at all. He brought up good points that can be disputed and so did Krackdagawd. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's wrong. You ain't the only one up here who knows boxing, you're like one of them old men standing in the screen door screaming at stray animals all day, take it how you want breh I don't care, someone needs to tell you something up here instead of co-signing just because. You have great knowledge but just shut up and stop acting like you're the god of this.

 

[WhodatWhoadi]

BlackFagget is a known cock sucker of floyd..see him all up in the threads with his bull..usually thats all he talks about, so dude= grade A stan..

manufactured career? really breh? pac future HOF along with floyd.

 

[Black_Jesus]

No u don't do this

Who built a big portion of their career fighting another fighter's leftovers and already wiped out fighters?

Who is it that ducked fighters but once they start looking like garbage all of a sudden wants to fight them?

Who uses catch weights the most

But who was an already established WW champion who ducked a prime Cotto, Maragrito, Paul Williams, at 147??

After Cotto beat Shane....... who announced their "retirement" and left the sport for two years.. came back and fought a guy coming from 135 who they had to come in heavy against.

Not to discredit Floyds win, but Floyd aint fight Shane until he had been sitting cold for almost 2 years pushing 40

Are u trying to be dumb or what? Cotto fought and beat Margo right b4 he fought Floyd. Was he coming off a bad performance?

Nobody said shyt about people being undefeated moron. ODLH wasn't coming off a loss and wasn't weight drained when he fought Floyd. And umm Floyd had been trying to get a fight with him for the longest. That's why he left Top Rank Genius duh

Hatton beat Collazo by UD idiot and he was undefeated when he fought Floyd

And lol @ Floyd draining Canelo. The fight b4 he weighed 153 lbs. 1 lbs is draining now??? Try again lol

U must think ur talking to someone who doesn't know boxing

And nice job avoiding Manny's ducking of Mosley lol

Wait... so you're giving Cotto credit for finally beating Margo after Pac THRASHED him?? But you dont give Pac credit for beating Shane??

Oscar wasnt coming off a loss when Pac fought him either.. and Pac was coming up from featherweight.. Oscar drained himself in that fight. .

So 1 lb isn't draining when Floyd fought Canelo, but 1 lb is draining when Pac fought Cotto? you realize how stupid you sound??


Manny ducked Shane by fighting the guy who beat Shane and Floyd ducked??

 

[krackdagawd]

manufactured career? really breh? pac future HOF along with floyd.

This was my whole point in this, discrediting either side's wins is some stan shyt.

They are both great fighters with great resumes.

 

[patscorpio]

You're another one. With your bull, the brother didn't ether himself at all. He brought up good points that can be disputed and so did Krackdagawd. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's wrong. You ain't the only one up here who knows boxing, you're like one of them old men standing in the screen door screaming at stray animals all day, take it how you want breh I don't care, someone needs to tell you something up here instead of co-signing just because. You have great knowledge but just shut up and stop acting like you're the god of this.

oh he ethered himself...cuz apparently he must think that there are no other fighters on the top rank roster besides manny pacquiao. there are legit hype jobs in this sport...hell top rank has the biggest one IMO in julio cesar chavez jr who's more worthy of that manufactured bullshyt career tag he mentioned....but manny pacquiao? no breh..it's not debatable.its flat out wrong and stupid...if you think he made valid points in those stanning ass posts then you don't know boxing either..and you can take that how you want

 

[Newzz]

Came in here ready to drop facts and seen @krackdagawd and @Black_Jesus already handled it


Anybody discrediting Manny Pacquiao's resume is a fool

 

[RedBull]

oh he ethered himself...cuz apparently he must think that there are no other fighters on the top rank roster besides manny pacquiao. there are legit hype jobs in this sport...hell top rank has the biggest one IMO in julio cesar chavez jr who's more worthy of that manufactured bullshyt career tag he mentioned....but manny pacquiao? no breh..it's not debatable.its flat out wrong and stupid...if you think he made valid points in those stanning ass posts then you don't know boxing either..and you can take that how you want

Not agreeing with EVERYTHING he said at all, yes you'd be a fool to discredit Manny's resume. However some (not all) of the other points he made about the state and record of the fighters he fought, ie. Shane, ODLH, etc. were dead on, so don't act like what he is saying is far fetched or "ethering" himself just because you don't agree with it. You pick and choose certain things to comment on that might be debatable or flat wrong to comment on, but ignoring other truths just to exercise your, "you don't know boxing" stance, eff outta here with that. For the record I'm not hating on you breh , that's not the premise, but sometimes just shut up because you ain't Uncle Roger or Cus and you don't anoint who knows boxing and who doesn't. Some know more than others, you aint the Grand Poobah of this boxing talk.

 

[patscorpio]

Not agreeing with EVERYTHING he said at all, yes you'd be a fool to discredit Manny's resume. However some (not all) of the other points he made about the state and record of the fighters he fought, ie. Shane, ODLH, etc. were dead on, so don't act like what he is saying is far fetched or "ethering" himself just because you don't agree with it. You pick and choose certain things to comment on that might be debatable or flat wrong to comment on, but ignoring other truths just to exercise your, "you don't know boxing" stance, eff outta here with that. For the record I'm not hating on you breh , that's not the premise, but sometimes just shut up because you ain't Uncle Roger or Cus and you don't anoint who knows boxing and who doesn't. Some know more than others, you aint the Grand Poobah of this boxing talk.

the baseline for his argument is "And yea I been known this shyt. Example: Manny's manufactured bullshyt career"...where in his statement would you think somebody would know boxing? his arguments to support this are laughable and not only that not original..i dont know how long you've lurked in this area but he's not saying anything new or mindblowing..its just the same repeated rhetoric over and over....i dont have to tell them if they know boxing...they expose themselves..learn to sort through the garbage breh

 

[RedBull]

the baseline for his argument is "And yea I been known this shyt. Example: Manny's manufactured bullshyt career"...where in his statement would you think somebody would know boxing? his arguments to support this are laughable and not only that not original..i dont know how long you've lurked in this area but he's not saying anything new or mindblowing..its just the same repeated rhetoric over and over....i dont have to tell them if they know boxing...they expose themselves..learn to sort through the garbage breh

I've learned and this is exactly why I'm addressing you.

 

[Born2BKing]

You're another one. With your bull, the brother didn't ether himself at all. He brought up good points that can be disputed and so did Krackdagawd. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's wrong. You ain't the only one up here who knows boxing, you're like one of them old men standing in the screen door screaming at stray animals all day, take it how you want breh I don't care, someone needs to tell you something up here instead of co-signing just because. You have great knowledge but just shut up and stop acting like you're the god of this.