Tommy da gawd points out kelly rowlands self hate

[Ronnie Lott]

It is learned behavior. But you or tommy sotamayor calling people self hating black bytches doesn't help the situation at all.

If your dad tought you how to be a strong man and leader, you wouldn't be concerned with searching for and pointing out peoples flaws. Dudes like you are just exposing the fact that you didn't get that guidance.

1st off I have never said "these self hatin black bytches"

Secondly, what the hell are u doin bringin up the the my relationship with my father and whether or not he taught me how to be a strong man or leader You are reaching for anything u can find to deflect and deviate away from the idea of criticizing some black women.

What the hell does "guidance from your father" have anything to do with making observations? NOBODY is infallable, NOBODY is free from criticism. Everybody on planet earth is subject to criticism. Including me!

You are right now criticising me and questioning my upbringing, questioning the guidance I received. Aren't u in fact "criticizing and judging me" Double standard. U are full of double standards, contradictions, double talk and full of ambiguity. I get it man.

 

[marcuz]

People like Tommy, are part of the problem, because all that hate he spews does nothing to uplift the spirit of everyone. How long will you go towards dissing the same people who you claim is your own. That is self destruction. That looks like what we are leading to.

i was with you until this, it's easy to say people like him are part of the problem. when truth is the people he's making videos about are part of the real problem.

 

[marcuz]

Well tommy frames his hate as "black women" not "some black women" or "weave wearing black women" just "black women" so if you believe what he's saying is true, you must believe that he's talking about your mom. She's a black woman isn't she?

it's sad y'all need lil safe words like "some black women" or "many black women" just to create some wiggle room. even though y'all can't find any videos of him saying "ALL black women"

 

[philmonroe]

Well tommy frames his hate as "black women" not "some black women" or "weave wearing black women" just "black women" so if you believe what he's saying is true, you must believe that he's talking about your mom. She's a black woman isn't she?

White women have those issues, Hispanic women have those issues, Asian women have those issues.

It's disingenuous to paint these issues as black women issues when all black women don't have those issues and other races of women do.

There is a difference between someone offering constructive criticism/advice and someone offering hate. What tommy is doing is spewing hate, it doesn't matter if there is some truth to it or not because he has ill intentions.

Your just using semantics here talking that "black women" = all black women. That's stupid shyt. When chicks say "black men" and that shyt don't apply to me I know they are just generalizing just like guys do. Nobody should have to say "some" "not all", etc it should already be understood imo.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

1st off I have never said "these self hatin black bytches"

Secondly, what the hell are u doin bringin up the the my relationship with my father and whether or not he taught me how to be a strong man or leader You are reaching for anything u can find to deflect and deviate away from the idea of criticizing some black women.

What the hell does "guidance from your father" have anything to do with making observations? NOBODY is infallable, NOBODY is free from criticism. Everybody on planet earth is subject to criticism. Including me!

You are right now criticising me and questioning my upbringing, questioning the guidance I received. Aren't u in fact "criticizing and judging me" Double standard. U are full of double standards, contradictions, double talk and full of ambiguity. I get it man.

I wasn't talking to or referring to you. I quoted Marcuz and i was talking about him and tommy sotamayor.

I have never seen you post some of the hateful stuff that Marcuz and tommy sotomoyor say, which is why I don't understand why you cosign it.

It's hateful and it's not criticism in the sense that they want to help the situation. It's just hate that further divides our people.

 

[marcuz]

Your just using semantics here talking that "black women" = all black women. That's stupid shyt. When chicks say "black men" and that shyt don't apply to me I know they are just generalizing just like guys do. Nobody should have to say "some" "not all", etc it should already be understood imo.

exactly. when black women run around screaming black men need to take care of they kids. i don't run around screaming "it's not all, it's not all. white men do it too "

 

[bouncy]

i was with you until this, it's easy to say people like him are part of the problem. when truth is the people he's making videos about are part of the real problem.

Yeah, but he goes too far. The only time someone would keep dissing someone like he does if when they have a lot of anger, and/or they are trying to make some money. I don't think it is healthy to always put your energy into something you don't like if you want to better yourself. You are supposed to do the opposite if you want to grow towards being better. You only deal with the negative once in a while, and that is to fix your issues.

The only type of people who DWELL in negativity are people who love playing the victim. I really think that is the character trait that is fukking us up.

 

[marcuz]

you can tell which men were raised by these type of women

always running around with their "white women do it too" comments. oh yeah, they're only 3x as many white women in the US. you'd think they'd do it a lot more if that were the case.




show me the video of white girls fighting over weave

 

[marcuz]

people who don't see the problem are either short sighted or don't care about the plight of the black community. one dude said it don't matter if you don't live around them. they the same people who say "why don't black folks reach back to the hood and help them out"

i hope one of these b*stard kids raised by these single mothers ends up breaking into ya house with a gun. then we'll see how you feel about the problem

 

[Ronnie Lott]

So you never start a opinion with "black women are" and say "this woman is" right?

I'm not sure if I understand your question bruh.

My whole point is this, (and I have remained consistent with this since I joined the Coli, EVERYONE should be criticized, nobody is free from a roast!) I don't hate black women. I don't have this hateful agenda to fulfill in bashin black women. I don't even go in on black women on some super disrespectful shyt. (And y'all know that)

I always preface my coments with "some black women." And when its time to criticize some of these dusty, irresponsible nyggaz in our community that fucc shyt up for nyggaz like me, I speak on that too.

The problem I have is the notion that when a black man criticizes the black woman, he is called every k00n in the book. But on the flip side, u hear our women talk all day about "how nyggaz ain't shyt, ya daddy ain't shyt, these nyggaz are all locked up and duckin child spport" etc etc. And yeah, a lot of those criticisms are tru, that is a fact. But u can't point fingers and then get mad when the finger is pointed back at u.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Your just using semantics here talking that "black women" = all black women. That's stupid shyt. When chicks say "black men" and that shyt don't apply to me I know they are just generalizing just like guys do. Nobody should have to say "some" "not all", etc it should already be understood imo.

In my opinion we shouldn't be "just generalizing" about our own people. If you're gonna get up on youtube and make sweeping statements about your own people they should be positive.

 

[Born2BKing]

Wait hold up, why the fukk is the thread Kermit made earlier in the Race Track but this thread mostly shytting on black women still in here? Mods can you answer this for me? @Brooklynzson

http://www.the-coli.com/race-track/95790-nation-white-people-must-give-up-racism.html#.UTuS9xxwq70

 

[marcuz]

Yeah, but he goes too far. The only time someone would keep dissing someone like he does if when they have a lot of anger, and/or they are trying to make some money. I don't think it is healthy to always put your energy into something you don't like if you want to better yourself. You are supposed to do the opposite if you want to grow towards being better. You only deal with the negative once in a while, and that is to fix your issues.

The only type of people who DWELL in negativity are people who love playing the victim. I really think that is the character trait that is fukking us up.

the motive is to shame negative behavior instead of praising it or allowing it as the norm. for decades, we've made it a habit to normalize the shyt every other community rejects. at what point are you doing to say enough is enough? you think black women will continue to think being single mothers is the shyt if everyone shyts on 'em for it? you think black women will continue to let aint shyt men fukk em raw, if they can no longer run to the "he abandoned us" excuse after gettin knocked up after?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I wasn't talking to or referring to you. I quoted Marcuz and i was talking about him and tommy sotamayor.

I have never seen you post some of the hateful stuff that Marcuz and tommy sotomoyor say, which is why I don't understand why you cosign it.

It's hateful and it's not criticism in the sense that they want to help the situation. It's just hate that further divides our people.

Ok cool. I'm glad u at least aknowleged that

Earlier in this thread,yesterday I even posted that Tommy was goin in on Kelly too hard and I couldn't 100% agree with all the things that he was sayin. But there are valid points that Tommy Sotomayor does make. Some of his views are over the top tho, he's basically on some shock dj type shyt

 

[marcuz]

Wait hold up, why the fukk is the thread Kermit made earlier in the Race Track but this thread mostly shytting on black women still in here? Mods can you answer this for me? @Brooklynzson

http://www.the-coli.com/race-track/95790-nation-white-people-must-give-up-racism.html#.UTuS9xxwq70

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