Tony Gonzalez may come back

[The_Sheff]

Two things I respect are consistency and thoroughness. If you are truly that thorough and consistent then more power to you.

To that point shouldn't you take issue with how much Ryan is making since after all it does take a whole team effort and having one guy making that much can be a hinderance to building a complete team?

Yeah, i mean one reason the Seahawks are so thorough is because Wilson doesnt make shyt. But the landscape of the NFL now is that if you have a franchise QB (yes Matt Ryan has proven to be such) then he is gonna command a stupid salary. If you dont pay him them some other team will. So the Falcons had two options, either pay him and try your best to build a complete team with the rest of your cap (which our GM didnt do, trying to be cheap), or let him leave and then hope you find someone competent in the draft who can lead you to a Super Bowl within the small window you have to win a title.

The Seahawks, 49ers, and Panthers are going to look totally different once their QBs are off rookie deals. Just watch.

 

[FTBS]

Yeah, i mean one reason the Seahawks are so thorough is because Wilson doesnt make shyt. But the landscape of the NFL now is that if you have a franchise QB (yes Matt Ryan has proven to be such) then he is gonna command a stupid salary. If you dont pay him them some other team will. So the Falcons had two options, either pay him and try your best to build a complete team with the rest of your cap (which our GM didnt do, trying to be cheap), or let him leave and then hope you find someone competent in the draft who can lead you to a Super Bowl within the small window you have to win a title.

The Seahawks, 49ers, and Panthers are going to look totally different once their QBs are off rookie deals. Just watch.

As I have pointed out in numerous thread before Eli, Flacco, Ben and now Wilson have 6 rings in the last 9 years. Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady have 3 in the same span.

Notice a trend there? You are more likely to win with a complete team and a QB that you aren't asking to carry the load. Even when the elite guys won they weren't being asked to carry the load. Their respective teams were at their most complete when they actually won. We have never had a QB make $20 mil a year while winning the SB (maybe Manning in 06 but you get the point). At some point GMs have to start standing up to these QBs because I'm sorry if Peyton Manning or Tom Brady can't carry you to a SB, I know damn well that Matt Ryan isn't. And when you pay a guy 1/6 of your cap space that's pretty much what you are looking for him to do.

 

[kevin arnold]

If he's playing 1 year max, why would he go there? Chiefs aren't winning a SB next year.

If jammal charles is healthy we beat the colts.

we then smash denver

then the seahawks








it was right in front of us…





we will be back

 

[The_Sheff]

As I have pointed out in numerous thread before Eli, Flacco, Ben and now Wilson have 6 rings in the last 9 years. Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady have 3 in the same span.

Notice a trend there? You are more likely to win with a complete team and a QB that you aren't asking to carry the load. Even when the elite guys won they weren't being asked to carry the load. Their respective teams were at their most complete when they actually won. We have never had a QB make $20 mil a year while winning the SB (maybe Manning in 06 but you get the point). At some point GMs have to start standing up to these QBs because I'm sorry if Peyton Manning or Tom Brady can't carry you to a SB, I know damn well that Matt Ryan isn't. And when you pay a guy 1/6 of your cap space that's pretty much what you are looking for him to do.

Ok, so what would you do? You gonna let your QB walk and start over? If you get a QB that gets you to a title game then his deal is up, you pretty much fukked. You say the GMs have to stand up to the players but thats easy to say when it isnt your player, some other GM is gonna pay that player, you know it. And if none of them do, thats an easy collusion case.

Flacco got paid. Last years superbowl could have easily been Flacco vs. Ryan. So dont act like the Ravens did something cap wise the Falcons didnt last year. They are both in the same position now.

 

[FTBS]

Ok, so what would you do? You gonna let your QB walk and start over? If you get a QB that gets you to a title game then his deal is up, you pretty much fukked. You say the GMs have to stand up to the players but thats easy to say when it isnt your player, some other GM is gonna pay that player, you know it. And if none of them do, thats an easy collusion case.

Flacco got paid. Last years superbowl could have easily been Flacco vs. Ryan. So dont act like the Ravens did something cap wise the Falcons didnt last year. They are both in the same position now.

I was against Stafford getting his big extension and remain resolute in that stance. If some other GM pays that player then that is their problem. How many teams have had success (winning a SB) after doing so? We've established that it takes a complete team. You can't have it both ways. You can't go on and on about how you need a complete team to win and you shouldn't make it all about the QB and then turn around and be beholden to a QB to the point where you will pay him 1/6th of your cap when rosters are 53 men deep.

Flacco got paid AFTER winning a SB. Neither he or Ryan was making $20 mil a year at the time. So I'm not sure what your point was there

 

[Bolzmark]

Gonzalez may very well be the GOAT TE but coming to a team at the end of a season to try and get a ring would be some straight bullsh!t. Blow off training camp and the preseason? Absolutely. He shouldn't have to do that. But imagine you on the team all season, lumped up, hurtin, and then here he comes after chillin at home all this time, talkin about lets get this ring. He needs to be on the field Week 1 or not at all.

 

[Bboystyle]

Come to GB Tony, Rodgers will send u off with a ring

 

[The_Sheff]

I was against Stafford getting his big extension and remain resolute in that stance. If some other GM pays that player then that is their problem. How many teams have had success (winning a SB) after doing so? We've established that it takes a complete team. You can't have it both ways. You can't go on and on about how you need a complete team to win and you shouldn't make it all about the QB and then turn around and be beholden to a QB to the point where you will pay him 1/6th of your cap when rosters are 53 men deep.

Flacco got paid AFTER winning a SB. Neither he or Ryan was making $20 mil a year at the time. So I'm not sure what your point was there

My point was that if the Falcons won that Super Bowl you would have Ryan listed as a cheap QB that won and the Falcons as the franchise who won the smart way when in reality both teams were on the same path. Its the nature of the beast. You speaking on what GMs should do, and in todays NFL its just not possible.

 

[FTBS]

My point was that if the Falcons won that Super Bowl you would have Ryan listed as a cheap QB that won and the Falcons as the franchise who won the smart way when in reality both teams were on the same path. Its the nature of the beast. You speaking on what GMs should do, and in todays NFL its just not possible.

If the Falcons won the SB then I would have less of a problem with Ryan getting that money. He'd actually be more deserving than Flacco since the team is built around him while Flacco joined an established progam based on defense and running the ball. The Ravens have been a consistent contender for Flacco's whole career before this one, despite some rather play on his part. The Falcons have been the model of inconsistency. Not exactly the same path breh. The point is Flacco got paid AFTER he won. Guys like Ryan and Stafford and Cutler and Romo are getting paid in HOPES THAT ONE DAY THEY MIGHT WIN. Ironically paying them like that actually makes it less likely that the team will win. Which gets us back to my point that you as a Falcons fan (especially a fan that understands that complete teams not glamour boy QBs are the key to championships) should have a problem with it too instead of defending him and the decision to pay him like you have thus far. How is it not possible? Do we not see complete teams (strong on D and running the ball usually) win with young QBs that aren't necessarily the greatest regularly? Do we not see the actual elite QBs going home with their heads down regularly? So what would make one think that paying a player who is inferior to Manning and Brady and co. like he's in that class and expecting him to do what even they haven't been able to do is a good strategy?

 

[SpursFanSinceNovember2017]

What ethnicity is Tony Gonzalez?

Yes, Tony Gonzalez does have some Mexican heritage. However, the Atlanta Falcons tight end also has a very diverse ethnicity including Portuguese, Scottish, Jamaican, African American, Caucasian, and Native American roots.

Tony Gonzalez is a mix of Hispanic, African American, Indian, Jamaican, and Cape Verdian.

 

[Born2BKing]

Okay so first things first. The team could have afforded to pay a mid tier offensive lineman with Matt Ryan's salary last year, and keep John Abraham. Ownership chose not to and tried to save money. So Falcons fans are killing Dimitroff (our GM), as we rightly should be. The Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos both outspent the Atlanta Falcons by 15 millions bucks. If we spent that on offensive linemen you dont think we would have seen improved results? We have so much damn dead money tied to our cap due to our GM its not even funny.

Second, so because he is getting paid a high salary all of a sudden he should be expected to do things no other QB in the history of the game could, which is win with the 2nd worst offensive line in the league? Did you watch the Super Bowl? Did you see what happened to Peyton Manning when his offensive line didnt hold up? Did you see Matt Ryan the previous 2 years when he had a "decent" offensive line? Go to the Falcons board now, you will see most fans think Matt Ryan is a good QB but not on Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady level. Is he overpaid? Yeah, but thats the way the QB market looks now, so you either pay him or someone else will.

Breh, do you realize how bad Aaron Rodgers O-Line was the year he one a ship?

 

[King Poetic]

nikka on his karl malone shyt now

 

[FreshFromATL]

Okay so first things first. The team could have afforded to pay a mid tier offensive lineman with Matt Ryan's salary last year, and keep John Abraham. Ownership chose not to and tried to save money. So Falcons fans are killing Dimitroff (our GM), as we rightly should be. The Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos both outspent the Atlanta Falcons by 15 millions bucks. If we spent that on offensive linemen you dont think we would have seen improved results? We have so much damn dead money tied to our cap due to our GM its not even funny.

Second, so because he is getting paid a high salary all of a sudden he should be expected to do things no other QB in the history of the game could, which is win with the 2nd worst offensive line in the league? Did you watch the Super Bowl? Did you see what happened to Peyton Manning when his offensive line didnt hold up? Did you see Matt Ryan the previous 2 years when he had a "decent" offensive line? Go to the Falcons board now, you will see most fans think Matt Ryan is a good QB but not on Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady level. Is he overpaid? Yeah, but thats the way the QB market looks now, so you either pay him or someone else will.

Come on, breh, stop for Matt. I was at work today and EVERYBODY was dogging this nikka (white people and black people)

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

Seahawks 9ers Broncos or Yes...Pat's. I don't see anyone signing him for just the last two months though. This spic acting like this WWE and shyt

Lmao at getting reported for this post

 

[DrX]

nikka need tp keep his ass in the booth, ol gary payton ass nikka