Yeah prob. But I don't expect fukkos to stop trying to top it.
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I think you're on to something about the next shift in the worker abilities. I do think we're going to see a jump in what the women can do athletically in the ring. Like Sol, Kelani, Tiffy are the first wave of the crazy gymnastics girls.
I think we reached that point years ago, tbh.
There's only so much that the human body can do, and we've already seen every possible variation of a flip, spin, dive, twirl, twist, jump, fall, etc. That's why today's wrestlers have to OD on the dangerous stunts in order to get their coveted "this is awesome" chants, there's no real wow factor anymore unless those dorks are falling off a balcony or crashing through a table (which has actually been done to death, too).
The in-ring stuff is a literal dead horse that is still being beaten. The main thing that is keeping wrestling interesting is the storylines, IMO.
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The business needs another 2002 Tedd Petty Invitational/RoH reset. Where the next class of great workers buck the trends of mainstream rasslin and go a different path. That's the only reason the work got so much better in the industry the past 20 years(even if styles have hemogonized globally). But we've lost some common sense on the way to chasing the "pop".
Breh I was watching this indie match last night with these two out of shape dikk Murdoch looking cacs. And I tell ya, it was probably one of the best matches I saw this year despite it being just a lower card match.
It was heavy hitting, ass kicking, brutal, and didn't have a bunch of goofy flipping pop the crowd shyt.
Just grizzly wrasslin. The thing nowadays is that wrestling peaked with the style of NJPW and the last days of the indies that the style became stale. I shouldnt look at a AEW sicko match and go
, maybe less actually means more. Thus why I looked at that FTR/team Newports as a lowkey good match, versus Oceanspray and Swerve/young bucks which is glazed because "this is awesome", rather than 4 dudes getting their shyt in.Bottom line, more of the OG WCW with a twang of ROH workrate, and less of this stupid reckless shyt that's going to be forgotten with the next big ass move.
Bill Watts was a vile racist but many say everything he booked or put on TV made logical sense with that grit you mentioned to keep people locked in. I just wonder what a modern take on that style/presentation looks today. Sometimes you gotta go backwards to go forward.Breh I was watching this indie match last night with these two out of shape dikk Murdoch looking cacs. And I tell ya, it was probably one of the best matches I saw this year despite it being just a lower card match.
It was heavy hitting, ass kicking, brutal, and didn't have a bunch of goofy flipping pop the crowd shyt.
Just grizzly wrasslin. The thing nowadays is that wrestling peaked with the style of NJPW and the last days of the indies that the style became stale. I shouldnt look at a AEW sicko match and go
Bottom line, more of the OG WCW with a twang of ROH workrate, and less of this stupid reckless shyt that's going to be forgotten with the next big ass move.
TBH the closest thing we will ever get to a perfect blend of grit and flippy workrate was Lucha Underground. That was the epitome of professional wrestling from story telling, the matches, and making you believe that the title was to die for. We will never get to that level ever again because wrestling is so far gone in this weird "lets not take it serious" approach.
But sadly that mindset is spread throughout the world of sports and fake sports period. Its all about the checks and "lemme look like a million bucks" for a crowd pop that last about a few seconds.
It sucks that back then, the most disgusting and demonic of racists cacs actually understood how to make the product look believable than modern time
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Feels like athletiscm and skill in general in sports and entertainment performance is getting more and more impressive which each generation but there is a big sustainability issue.
See it Basketball and you see it in wrestling. Dudes are more impressive but are getting injured more and more even as they have more breaks/less dates to perform. Despite all that conditioning and modern medicine
a couple of years back Ospreay sat in his car on IG and said he came back from a doctor who told him hes gotta slow and he aint yet and its gonna be interesting for him in the next few years. He'll still be in his prime and maybe still be reaching it as you do in your mid 30s, but the injuries might rack up and then he may be slowed it down before his 40s. He was told to work slow now but I think he'll empty clip till 37. Him flying and back forth from England every fukking week is also insane and cannot be good, he might run a blood clot risk doing 52 weeks of transatlantic flights.
Thats basically it.
After a while, once you see threes from the nosebleeds and a 1080p spin into a swan dive, you appreciate a axe handle and a superplex once a blue moon. Not everything has to be overly done just to pop a crowd, and if that's the case...that says alot for you as a wrestler
flippy shyt has a higher rate of diminishing returns than literally anything else in wrestling.
I saw O'Shea do the double-rotation moonsault back when homie could land it without being on top of a cage. I have seen Sasuke Specials that would have made MASA Michinoku hit the Jackie Chan meme. I have seen rotations added to moves that required absolutely no corkscrews. Topes have be Con Hilo'd to death.
I don't care anymore.
Know what would be cool though?
If literally any male wrestler under 35 could throw a fukking worked punch. I would pop bigger than all the inverted Spiral Taps in the world.
I saw O'Shea do the double-rotation moonsault back when homie could land it without being on top of a cage. I have seen Sasuke Specials that would have made MASA Michinoku hit the Jackie Chan meme. I have seen rotations added to moves that required absolutely no corkscrews. Topes have be Con Hilo'd to death.
I don't care anymore.
Know what would be cool though?
If literally any male wrestler under 35 could throw a fukking worked punch. I would pop bigger than all the inverted Spiral Taps in the world.
Man if a wrestler can pull off a Flair, Funk, or Vader punches tho
I'd settle for Jarrett punches at this point, Marsupial. Can do a silver medal worthy floor tumbling routine to throw a crossbody, but ask them to cut a promo with emotion or I dunno... make someone give a shyt BEFORE the moves start getting S-tier degree-of-difficulty ratings.Man if a wrestler can pull off a Flair, Funk, or Vader punches tho
but nope.
Just flips; no fists.
They are the opposite of The Revival.
...so they're dead. Just like my interest in wrestling lately.