Tony Yayo Is A Better Rapper Than Andre 3000

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Or, he's smart enough to stay loyal anf play his position. He's around 50 (don't ask me how :wow: ) living a bigger and better rap life than dudes grinding out projects every few years, and most that ever tried. He won. 50 has beaten all the odds twice, Yayo stayed down and is reaping the rewards.
Tony a doormat and still letting a man disrespect him for loyalty at 50 year's old. You can try and change the narrative.

Andre his own man and don't have to wait on Big Boy to do nothing. Tony might as well call Curtis his daddy. Tony and 50 Cent really what Baby and Lil Wayne tried to be :dead:
 

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That's the problem though...Andre shouldn't be mentioned in those Top 5 or 10 conversations when the nikka ain't even proved he can carry a whole dope solo album. It should be laughable to you, or anybody, that he's mentioned above MCs that not only have 1 classic solo album but 2 or 3 or 4. nikka is mentioned more often than GZA and Prodigy and both has classic contributions on group albums too but also classic/really dope solo projects. It's fukking disgusting how overrated that dude is and then what makes it worse is the fact that the nikka acts like he's totally ashamed that he even did Hip Hop music. So nikkas is propping up a nikka that wants no part of the music they have conversations and debates about on a daily basis.

I have said why I don't thin its fair for Andre 3000 to be mentioned next to Nas, Biggie, Jay or Pac or MC's who have at least two classic solo albums or even MC's who have the one. Personally, Andre is one of my favorite rappers.

On the same token, if you have Prodigy in a Top 10, the case against Andre is weak. Prodigy has 0 classic solo albums and the only way you'd make a case is to use Mobb albums to make the argument. Don't give me any garbage about him proving he could make a solo album because none of the greats are great because they proved they make a solo album, they are greats because they made solo albums that moved or shifted the culture. And if the solo work alone can't make a case for an MC being elite, then even having solo work is null and void. Why? Because most folks have Andre in a GOAT tier because of his Kast work and his features.

Nas doesn't have an catalog with a group that makes his case. Jay doesn't have a catalog with a group to make his case. Biggie's doesn't have group albums to make his case. Pac doesn't have group albums to make his case. None of them NEED group albums to make their case. Prodigy and Andre 3000 do. GZA doesn't need a Wu album to make his case because he has Liquid Swords.
 

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And you're completely wrong about Andre not wanting anything to do with Hop Hop. You couldn't have listened to Outkast's music (even if it was just the singles) and think Andre 3000 just decided that doing rap at a certain age or age period was an issue he had with music from Aquemini forward. His verse on "Rosa Parks"
speaks at length about that. Time has caught up to some of the greatest. Every MC isn't built like Nas to where they are still dropping incredible music near 50 years old.
 

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I have said why I don't thin its fair for Andre 3000 to be mentioned next to Nas, Biggie, Jay or Pac or MC's who have at least two classic solo albums or even MC's who have the one. Personally, Andre is one of my favorite rappers.

On the same token, if you have Prodigy in a Top 10, the case against Andre is weak. Prodigy has 0 classic solo albums and the only way you'd make a case is to use Mobb albums to make the argument. Don't give me any garbage about him proving he could make a solo album because none of the greats are great because they proved they make a solo album, they are greats because they made solo albums that moved or shifted the culture. And if the solo work alone can't make a case for an MC being elite, then even having solo work is null and void. Why? Because most folks have Andre in a GOAT tier because of his Kast work and his features.

Nas doesn't have an catalog with a group that makes his case. Jay doesn't have a catalog with a group to make his case. Biggie's doesn't have group albums to make his case. Pac doesn't have group albums to make his case. None of them NEED group albums to make their case. Prodigy and Andre 3000 do. GZA doesn't need a Wu album to make his case because he has Liquid Swords.

Stop it, bro :russ:

Prodigy may not have 1 universally hailed classic solo album but he has SEVERAL really, really dope solo albums. You acting like he was dropping nothing but duds :russ:

Plus his work on the Mobb group albums rivals Andre's Outkast output. He has more of a claim to a Top Ten GOAT list than Andre.

Prodigy >>>>>>> Andre

Word to the homie @mobbinfms :myman:
 

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And you're completely wrong about Andre not wanting anything to do with Hop Hop. You couldn't have listened to Outkast's music (even if it was just the singles) and think Andre 3000 just decided that doing rap at a certain age or age period was an issue he had with music from Aquemini forward. His verse on "Rosa Parks"
speaks at length about that. Time has caught up to some of the greatest. Every MC isn't built like Nas to where they are still dropping incredible music near 50 years old.

There's several interviews out there where he's acting like he's ashamed to be a rapper and implying rappers should stop rapping at 30. Weirdo shyt and one of the reasons alot of people don't take rap music seriously as an artform. Got elders like him behaving like that.
 

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Stop it, bro :russ:

Prodigy may not have 1 universally hailed classic solo album but he has SEVERAL really, really dope solo albums. You acting like he was dropping nothing but duds :russ:

Plus his work on the Mobb group albums rivals Andre's Outkast output. He has more of a claim to a Top Ten GOAT list than Andre.

Prodigy >>>>>>> Andre

Word to the homie @mobbinfms :myman:

If he doesn't have a classic solo, he doesn't go in a GOAT discussion. Having several really dope albums must've been the criteria the same time features met the "eligibility requirements". It doesn't matter whether or not he has some really dope solo albums. A lot of MC's have really dope solo albums, but they aren't in GOAT discussions. And no he doesn't have more of Top 10 GOAT claim than Andre 3000. Snoop Dogg has a solo classic album and several other really, really dope albums, but rarely scratches a Top 10 list. And while we're at it, who are we knocking off this list to include Prodigy:

Pac
Biggie
Nas
Jay
Rakim
Scarface
Cube
LL
Ghost
Common
 
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If he doesn't have a classic solo, he doesn't go in a GOAT discussion. Having several really dope albums must've been the criteria the same time features met the "eligibility requirements". It doesn't matter whether or not he has some really dope solo albums. A lot of MC's have really dope solo albums, but they aren't in GOAT discussions. And no he doesn't have more of Top 10 GOAT claim than Andre 3000. Snoop Dogg has a solo classic album and several other really, really dope albums, but rarely scratches a Top 10 list. And while we're at it, who are we knocking off this list to include Prodigy:

Pac
Biggie
Nas
Jay
Rakim
Scarface
Cube
LL
Ghost
Common

I didn't say he should definitively should be in the Top 10. I said he has more of a claim to one of those spots than a nikka like Andre. Classic verses on classic albums. SUPER memorable lines and several really dope albums. Who you knocking off that list you dropped for overrated Andre?
 

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I didn't say he should definitively should be in the Top 10. I said he has more of a claim to one of those spots than a nikka like Andre. Classic verses on classic albums. SUPER memorable lines and several really dope albums. Who you knocking off that list you dropped for overrated Andre?

Andre has classic verses kn classic albums and also SUPER memorable lines outside of just people who are Kast fans.

Breh, if I were knocking someone off that list to put Andre on the list, don't you think I would've had him listed. Make it make sense. I already told you, objectively, I can't put him next to or above MC's with a classic album and an extensive solo catalog even though Andre is one of my favorite MC's.
 

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If he doesn't have a classic solo, he doesn't go in a GOAT discussion. Having several really dope albums must've been the criteria the same time features met the "eligibility requirements". It doesn't matter whether or not he has some really dope solo albums. A lot of MC's have really dope solo albums, but they aren't in GOAT discussions. And no he doesn't have more of Top 10 GOAT claim than Andre 3000. Snoop Dogg has a solo classic album and several other really, really dope albums, but rarely scratches a Top 10 list. And while we're at it, who are we knocking off this list to include Prodigy:

Pac
Biggie
Nas
Jay
Rakim
Scarface
Cube
LL
Ghost
Common
All of them.
Common :dead:
 
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