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Ryan is such a little sniveling Twerp. He's as bad as the rest of the Repubs aside from Kasich.
Top Republicans talking up Paul Ryan as nominee
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Only possible way the GOP can win in the fall is with a non-trump candidate who has Trump's blessing. Preferably a women. Ryan has considerable problems with many vocal Trumpians(Coulter, Milo) because of his more classically liberal views on borders. He's very ill suited to bringing Trump's people into line, idk about Trump personally.
Hard to think of a candidate who fits this mold however. Someone like Rick Scott or Sessions would be a logical choice on paper but lack charisma and profile for a national campaign.
Hard to think of a candidate who fits this mold however. Someone like Rick Scott or Sessions would be a logical choice on paper but lack charisma and profile for a national campaign.
Biden sonned that chump, keep him in the house 
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He will always be connected to Romney, which is a negative, but he's a beast scarier to me than Ted Cruz. The dude knows his numbers and is low key directly patched in with every part of the establishment. He could be the motivated version of Ronald Reagan.
Nothing good would come of this (for the GOP anyway) if they tried it.
Not only would Ryan still lose, but his political career would be dead in the water afterwards (he'd be seen as blatantly trying to steal the election) and the GOP base would be livid. Can't see it happening. If they really did try to steal it from Trump then I'd think the establishment would at least go with someone who's running (ie. Cruz or Kasich).
Not only would Ryan still lose, but his political career would be dead in the water afterwards (he'd be seen as blatantly trying to steal the election) and the GOP base would be livid. Can't see it happening. If they really did try to steal it from Trump then I'd think the establishment would at least go with someone who's running (ie. Cruz or Kasich).
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Ryan likely would've won the nomination, had he ran. Jeb was in the race, and all the money was going to him as the Chosen One
. He would've been seen as the palpable alternative to Trump, just like how things shook out in 2012. There were no good alternatives this cycle, as they were all beta, while Romney was an Beta playing Alpha in 2012, before the spotlight.
gop is desperate, anything can happen
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True. Trump is one some inverse Bulworth shyt
, that seems to be working because he gets so much focus. I don't think they want to take aby chances, which is why Kasich is still in, having won only his home state. Someone else's theory is viable that everyone would pool into the establishment candidate that is still in the race, as their delegate would be there to defend them if it gets nuts.
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2 Reasons Paul Ryan Would Be A Hard Sell To Republican Voters
BY AARON RUPAR
APR 4, 2016 4:57 PM
CREDIT: AP PHOTO/J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, R-Wis., decried ugliness and divisiveness in American politics, delivering a veiled but passionate rebuke to GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump and the nasty tone of the presidential campaign as he addressed congressional interns on Capitol Hill in Washington, Wednesday, March 23, 2016.
Karl Rove thinks Republicans might be best served nominating “a fresh face” during the party’s convention this July in Cleveland. Politico, citing an anonymous Republican source it claims is reliable on such matters, reported that “‘fresh face’ is code for ‘Paul Ryan,'” adding that their Republican source now believes it’s more likely than not the Speaker of the House ultimately emerges from a contested convention as the Republican nominee.
Politico is far from alone in believing there’s a real chance that Ryan ends up being the Republican running against Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders this fall. The Huffington Post reported Monday afternoon that Charles Koch has been telling friends Ryan is a “shoo-in” to get the nod it Trump falls short of the delegate number he needs in order to avoid a contested convention.
Ryan denies having interest in the role. During a Monday morning appearance on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show, he said, “I’m not that person. I’d like to think my face is somewhat fresh, but I’m not for this conversation. I think you need to run for president if you’re going to run for president, and I’m not running for president. Period, end of story.” In October, however, Ryan unequivocally said he would not be a candidate for Speaker. Weeks later, he was elected to the position.
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Politico's Republican source said Ryan makes sense because he's "the most conservative, least establishment member of the establishment." But there are two issues for Republican voters where Ryan is less conservative than Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, the leading contenders for the GOP nomination who between them have already received more than 13 million votes this primary season.
The first is immigration, which a recent survey of Republican voters found to be "the animating issue" for the GOP base this year above any other. Trump and Cruz both favor deporting undocumented immigrants. That view has proved popular during the Republican primary season, though a recent poll indicates support for Trump's border wall is weaker than it was a few months ago. But Ryan, liked failed presidential candidate Marco Rubio, has backed some form of comprehensive immigration reform. That position hasn't been popular with Republican voters this primary season and probably wouldn't be among base voters in the general campaign either.
The second is trade. Ryan supports the Obama administration-negotiated Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal that is currently stalled in Congress. Trump and Cruz do not, arguing it's a bad deal for American workers. Working-class Republicans in Rust Belt states might feel betrayed if delegates coronate Ryan despite him not running during the primary, a primary during which the two Republicans who have received the most votes have made opposition to TPP-style trade centerpieces of their campaigns.
Both Trump and Cruz have warned that things might get ugly in Cleveland if Republican insiders follow through with a plan to nominate a candidate who didn't run in the primary. Last month, Trump notoriously predicted there will be riots if he ends up being the top vote-getter but is denied the nomination. Cruz, speaking on Monday about the possibility that a "compromise candidate" emerges at the convention, said, "It ain't gonna happen. If it did, the people would quite rightly revolt.”
Yet the GOP wouldn't find itself in the business of "compromise candidates" in the first place if it wasn't for the fact that both Trump and Cruz are now viewed unfavorably by a majority of the voting population. The question that will face delegates if Trump falls short of the magic number is whether it's worth alienating a proportion of Republican base voters and risking an ugly scene in Cleveland in order to nominate a candidate that might prove more popular during the general election.
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2 Reasons Paul Ryan Would Be A Hard Sell To Republican Voters
BY AARON RUPAR
APR 4, 2016 4:57 PM
CREDIT: AP PHOTO/J. SCOTT APPLEWHITE
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, R-Wis., decried ugliness and divisiveness in American politics, delivering a veiled but passionate rebuke to GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump and the nasty tone of the presidential campaign as he addressed congressional interns on Capitol Hill in Washington, Wednesday, March 23, 2016.
Karl Rove thinks Republicans might be best served nominating “a fresh face” during the party’s convention this July in Cleveland. Politico, citing an anonymous Republican source it claims is reliable on such matters, reported that “‘fresh face’ is code for ‘Paul Ryan,'” adding that their Republican source now believes it’s more likely than not the Speaker of the House ultimately emerges from a contested convention as the Republican nominee.
Politico is far from alone in believing there’s a real chance that Ryan ends up being the Republican running against Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders this fall. The Huffington Post reported Monday afternoon that Charles Koch has been telling friends Ryan is a “shoo-in” to get the nod it Trump falls short of the delegate number he needs in order to avoid a contested convention.
Ryan denies having interest in the role. During a Monday morning appearance on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show, he said, “I’m not that person. I’d like to think my face is somewhat fresh, but I’m not for this conversation. I think you need to run for president if you’re going to run for president, and I’m not running for president. Period, end of story.” In October, however, Ryan unequivocally said he would not be a candidate for Speaker. Weeks later, he was elected to the position.
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Rove Suggests Disregarding Millions Of Republican Voters, Nominating A ‘Fresh Face’ For President
Politico's Republican source said Ryan makes sense because he's "the most conservative, least establishment member of the establishment." But there are two issues for Republican voters where Ryan is less conservative than Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, the leading contenders for the GOP nomination who between them have already received more than 13 million votes this primary season.
The first is immigration, which a recent survey of Republican voters found to be "the animating issue" for the GOP base this year above any other. Trump and Cruz both favor deporting undocumented immigrants. That view has proved popular during the Republican primary season, though a recent poll indicates support for Trump's border wall is weaker than it was a few months ago. But Ryan, liked failed presidential candidate Marco Rubio, has backed some form of comprehensive immigration reform. That position hasn't been popular with Republican voters this primary season and probably wouldn't be among base voters in the general campaign either.
The second is trade. Ryan supports the Obama administration-negotiated Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal that is currently stalled in Congress. Trump and Cruz do not, arguing it's a bad deal for American workers. Working-class Republicans in Rust Belt states might feel betrayed if delegates coronate Ryan despite him not running during the primary, a primary during which the two Republicans who have received the most votes have made opposition to TPP-style trade centerpieces of their campaigns.
Both Trump and Cruz have warned that things might get ugly in Cleveland if Republican insiders follow through with a plan to nominate a candidate who didn't run in the primary. Last month, Trump notoriously predicted there will be riots if he ends up being the top vote-getter but is denied the nomination. Cruz, speaking on Monday about the possibility that a "compromise candidate" emerges at the convention, said, "It ain't gonna happen. If it did, the people would quite rightly revolt.”
Yet the GOP wouldn't find itself in the business of "compromise candidates" in the first place if it wasn't for the fact that both Trump and Cruz are now viewed unfavorably by a majority of the voting population. The question that will face delegates if Trump falls short of the magic number is whether it's worth alienating a proportion of Republican base voters and risking an ugly scene in Cleveland in order to nominate a candidate that might prove more popular during the general election.
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2 Reasons Paul Ryan Would Be A Hard Sell To Republican Voters
Bruh this aint 2008 or 2012
McCain or Romney with the right VP look way better than Shillary
OK, Romney was fukkign incompetent as a governor, but at least he's not under federal investigation. And from what I know McCain is a reasonable stand up dude. Shillary is a criminal who got into politics through Barry Goldwater
EXACTLYBruh this aint 2008 or 2012
McCain or Romney with the right VP look way better than Shillary
OK, Romney was fukkign incompetent as a governor, but at least he's not under federal investigation. And from what I know McCain is a reasonable stand up dude. Shillary is a criminal who got into politics through Barry Goldwater
The idiots on the right believe the reason they lost in 2008 and 2012 is because they were not conservative enough.
