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If I was President Mark Shapiro, GM Ross Atkins or owner Ed Rogers, I’d be hauling Schneider into my office and asking him these three questions about some of his roster decisions, bullpen usage and in-game management in game 7

1) Who gave Vladdy the green light when he was on a 3-0 pitch count (3 balls, no strikes) when Blake Snell was clearly pitching around him trying to get him to chase bad pitches? Had he walked, that would have maybe led to the Series winning run.

2) Why did you choose to not to try to advance runners in the 2nd with two on and no out?

3) Why did you continue to play Nathan Lukes in the starting and batting lineup when he couldn’t hit, get on bases and move runners for the vast majority of the series while Davis Schneider only started one game in the entire WS, game 5, and had two hits, one of them being a lead off homer on his first pitch in his first at-bat of the game?

4) Eric Lauer pitched 4 excellent and scoreless innings in that game 3 18 inning game but wasnt used again in the World Series anymore . Why ? You should have been used him at least once in the 8th or 9th, 10th 11th instead of Yesavage, Hoffman, Dominguez or Bieber. I understand your reluctance of using brendan little, but Braydon fisher or mason fluharty were available in the bullpen right there for duty. ( of course Kevin gausman and max scherzer weren’t going to be used last night for obvious reasons)

5) IKF being used as a pinch runner over Davis Schneider. What were you thinking? It’s not like IKF had much more speed and was a much better situational baserunner than Schneider. IKF lack of initiative, execution situational awareness on the base path in the bottom of the 9th inning might have cost a World Series title to the jays. He was too cautious and sloppy at the same time.

6) why you had Ernie Clement, the player with the most hits ever in an MLB post season hitting behind Daulton Varsho in the batting lineup tonight. Varsho is a great defensive outfielder with elite range, defensive coverage, speed, agility and a cannon arm but he struggled at the plate all,series except game 1. He should have been hitting in the 8th spot instead of the 7th

Then I’d tell him I’m having a hard time thinking why I should allow you to manage the Blue Jays next year, despite being two outs away from a championship in the top of the 9th.

Then I’d bring in the office the Jays 3rd base coach Carlos Febles, and bring up every play where he sent runners on no-force plays and were thrown out at home and 3rd and ask what his thought process was. Then I’d fire him. I will hang Monday’s game 3’s 18th inning loss and tonight’s game 7 11th inning loss squarely on his shoulders.

Myles straw was in the batting lineup as a pinch hitter breh… fukking miles straw. I have nothing wrong against him as a player or person, but he did not belong there. Again Davis Schneider should have been used instead in his place.

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After hockey, Baseball is probably the most day-to-day, case to case basis, luck based sports out of all the major team sports on earth. Baseball is a fickle and capricious game with a lot of random .

Honestly, in baseball, a team who had a great performance in a previous playoff game or playoff series doesn’t mean they will repeat or replicate the same great performance in the next playoff game or series. In baseball, Past performances/outcomes are not indicators of future performances/outcomes. Playoff performance in each game or round of the major league Baseball playoffs is always on a case to case, game to game basis. Momentum rarely carries over the next game. Each game and even each inning has its own story unlike other sports with best of seven series such as hockey or basketball because baseball has too random variance between games. Baseball is just a fickle and Capricious game, on any given night, if a team does the wrong things but has one bad half-inning, , they can beat best players and the best teams
MLB playoffs are a crap shoot IMO. Brewers have a great team, just ran into a buzz saw at the wrong time.

I've experienced plenty of Dodgers playoff disappointments to know that the baseball gods are unforgiving.

Yeah baseball is somewhat fickle like that

Baseball is too random. In a sport where even the greatest hitters only make it 35% of the time and only get 5 or so at-bats in a game, there's just too much random variation (there's a reason why great football teams win 90% of their games and great basketball teams win 80% of their games but great baseball teams only win 60%. And Great hockey teams win 55-65% of their games, hockey is similar to baseball, winning games in these two sports is based on a higher luck to skill ratio ) So who will advance in the playoffs often comes down to whose pitchers/hitters are hot at any given time .Luck is often involved. In baseball, It’s better to be lucky than good sometimes.

Teams get fortunate bounces go their way, get hot at the right time in the playoffs, then make a deep run and even win the WS

Healthy Teams with fortune/luck on their side, clutch factor, favorable playoff matchups, hard work, great Chemistry and execution but above average talent at best can win series in baseball. Unlike the nba for example where the best teams with superior talent advantage eventually always triumph at the end. You can’t overcome it.

Styles make fights. Sometimes a team is built to exploit the weakness of their playoff opponents. Teams get favorable playoff matchups along the way and take advantage of that.

MLB playoffs are probably the least predictable postseason behind the NHL playoffs.

NBA is the most predictable (the best teams almost always win in the nba playoffs -logic is always respected ) talent/skill is much more a factor in the nba than lucky bounces, momentum or timing. Much more possessions in basketball so the elite players on elite teams always get the ball and have plenty of opportunities to make plays and score.

NFL and soccer is in the middle.



Yeah there is no guarantee that in a brand new series, that a team’s pitchers/hitters will dominate opposing hitters/pitchers just like they dominated the opposing hitters/pitchers in the previous series. Unfortunately a great performance in a previous playoff series =/= same great performance in the next playoff series. Past performance is not an indicator of future performance. Playoff performance in each round of the major league Baseball playoffs is always on a case to case basis.

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Speaking of the 3rd base coach, here is IKF’s “lead” in the bottom of the ninth when the ball was hit by Varsho:

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If he takes a normal lead or the coach tells him to move up he scores on this ground out and the Jays win the WS.

Now I’m just f***ing pissed at IKF and the 3rd base coach.

Now that infuriates me even more. Holy f***, get off that f***ing bag at least 10 feet when the pitch comes and running on ground ball contact. That was another difference in this game being a win and a loss. If he’s three steps more off that bag, he’s in before the throw gets there.


Be a utility/specialized pinch runner bad at baserunning breh
He also slid for no reason. it was a force out! Sliding doesnt matter. If he ran through they win
 

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Well Bluejays had the bases loaded in the 9th so they can't really blame anyone. Dodgers really grinded this series out. From the 18 innings game to winning game 6 and 7 on a double play. Yes Yamamoto was the MVP because the level of difficulty to pitch that many innings and then come back was very high. I know Japan is wilin' out, they love baseball over there. LOL @ Magic, how many championships is this now? First back to back Champ since Late 90's Yankees. Ironically the Bluejays last Championship was a Back To Back win against the Phillies 32 years ago. Also the Dot/Drake stuff is funny with that picture, lol. Well 3 rings in 6 years, Dodgers Dynasty?
 
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If I was President Mark Shapiro, GM Ross Atkins or owner Ed Rogers, I’d be hauling Schneider into my office and asking him these three questions about some of his roster decisions, bullpen usage and in-game management in game 7

1) Who gave Vladdy the green light when he was on a 3-0 pitch count (3 balls, no strikes) when Blake Snell was clearly pitching around him trying to get him to chase bad pitches? Had he walked, that would have maybe led to the Series winning run.

2) Why did you choose to not to try to advance runners in the 2nd with two on and no out?

3) Why did you continue to play Nathan Lukes in the starting and batting lineup when he couldn’t hit, get on bases and move runners for the vast majority of the series while Davis Schneider only started one game in the entire WS, game 5, and had two hits, one of them being a lead off homer on his first pitch in his first at-bat of the game?

4) Eric Lauer pitched 4 excellent and scoreless innings in that game 3 18 inning game but wasnt used again in the World Series anymore . Why ? You should have been used him at least once in the 8th or 9th, 10th 11th instead of Yesavage, Hoffman, Dominguez or Bieber. I understand your reluctance of using brendan little, but Braydon fisher or mason fluharty were available in the bullpen right there for duty. ( of course Kevin gausman and max scherzer weren’t going to be used last night for obvious reasons)

5) IKF being used as a pinch runner over Davis Schneider. What were you thinking? It’s not like IKF had much more speed and was a much better situational baserunner than Schneider. IKF lack of initiative, execution situational awareness on the base path in the bottom of the 9th inning might have cost a World Series title to the jays. He was too cautious and sloppy at the same time.

6) why you had Ernie Clement, the player with the most hits ever in an MLB post season hitting behind Dalton Varsho in the batting lineup tonight. Varsho is a great defensive outfielder with elite range, defensive coverage, speed, agility and a cannon arm but he struggled at the plate all,series except game 1. He should have been hitting in the 8th spot instead of the 7th

Then I’d tell him I’m having a hard time thinking why I should allow you to manage the Blue Jays next year, despite being two outs away from a championship in the top of the 9th.

Then I’d bring in the office the Jays 3rd base coach Carlos Febles, and bring up every play where he sent runners on no-force plays and were thrown out at home and 3rd and ask what his thought process was. Then I’d fire him. I will hang Monday’s game 3’s 18th inning loss and tonight’s game 7 11th inning loss squarely on his shoulders.

Myles straw was in the batting lineup as a pinch hitter breh… fukking miles straw. I have nothing wrong against him as a player or person, but he did not belong there. Again Davis Schneider should have been used instead in his place.
Miguel Rojas hit a hr. Do u know how rare that is? I think he coulda pitched Yesavage longer, but its unfair to do that to a guy on a rookie deal. Yoshi paid for another decade.

Point is the way yall loss was an act of god. Like a hurricane. :yeshrug:

Thst ball getting stuck under the wall. There aint no answers for shyt like dat
 

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Feel for the Blue Jays fan here. Basically had the World Series won in Game 6 and 7 only for it to slip away twice.

Dodgers were outplayed and outpitched the entire series but did enough of the little things to grind this one out.

Kershaw walking away as a champion is just so deserved.

Yamamoto was an absolute beast during this playoff run. Going multiple innings after starting Game 6 is insane. These Japanese players have nerves of still.

This 2025 championship is probably top 3 in my sports fandom life.
 

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Had to be one maybe the most satisfying Championships when it comes to team efforts ever.

Did anybody really not contribute? Of course nobody was perfect, but everyone did something that contributed to a critical win for at least one game. Really the entire postseason.

That was what clutching it out and reaching deep down really looked like in a first to four series. 18 innings game 3 then 11 innings game 7 is absolutely wild. These guys played over an extra game.
 
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