TradCaths finding out how Catholicism works
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mbewane
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I mean they believe Jesus was a white conservative lmao
OneManGang
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Edit: Im aware of how the papacy works, but can anyone explain how does the Catholic Church enforce his actions abroad? Is it mostly a we just don’t recognize you, you’re a rogue bishop situation?
These ppl are fukkkng idiots!
Went to catholic school my entire life; carried me from K to the age of 18 and it was a great experience for the most part. Even after 14yrs in that environment I still would never convert to Catholicism. Lol
How is that your faith by birth or choice and you don’t know how it works?!
Scustin Bieburr
Baby baybee baybee UUUGH
American "Christians" aren't actually Christians. Christianity to them is a social club that gives them the "right" to look down on others.
You can't call yourself a Christian then fight legislation designed to feed children. You can't call yourself a Christian and support any sort of war unless it's a defensive one and even then you still want the fighting to stop asap. You can't call yourself a Christian and then oppose anything that let's black people get on an equal footing. You can't call yourself a Christian and then oppose the teaching of history because you're afraid that your children will feel bad and *gasp* want to make up for what their ancestors did.
You can't call yourself a Christian then fight legislation designed to feed children. You can't call yourself a Christian and support any sort of war unless it's a defensive one and even then you still want the fighting to stop asap. You can't call yourself a Christian and then oppose anything that let's black people get on an equal footing. You can't call yourself a Christian and then oppose the teaching of history because you're afraid that your children will feel bad and *gasp* want to make up for what their ancestors did.
Call the pope a heretic and expect to keep your title, cathbrehs.
The Fade
I don’t argue with niqqas on the Internet anymore
I've learned that people use Christianity to hide their real cults and religions underneath it. The Dominiant view of white Christianity has Germanic Viking shyt and Greek shyt leaking out for example. They de-emphasized the ascetic principles and de-emphasized marginalized people using mutual aid. Catholics killed some of those sects off and called other schools heretics. Waldensian still do those things like preach social justice and some American Reformers helped free us and then we used to have a huge Mutual Aid culture in our own Black Tradition(still there but struggling) but over all the dominant view is them using it to justify undercover viking raids (The Crusades, Klan and Mob raids into Black towns, Modern day Warhawking).
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MajesticLion
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A lot of people will convince themselves that since it hasn't been yanked in a while, the shackle is no longer there.
Pirius Black
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How the fukk are you larping as a Catholic and you not know how the doctrine of papal supremacy works. There is a reason why "papist" or "Pope Lover" used to be an insult that could literally disqualify you from public office here.
Edit: Im aware of how the papacy works, but can anyone explain how does the Catholic Church enforce his actions abroad? Is it mostly a we just don’t recognize you, you’re a rogue bishop situation?
The Papacy was set up as a monarchy and exercise absolute power and legal control over Catholics everywhere. What that means is, not just in matters of religious authority, but in terms of ownership, all assets of the Catholic Church belongs to the Papal seat. That includes everything from St. Patricks Cathedral in Manhattan all the way down to the little Catholic Church in the middle of nowhere in Texas.
So if we took this particular situation, if the Papacy wanted to, after removing the Texas Bishop, they could bar him from stepping into any Catholic Church within the diocese he presided over in Texas because they are the owners of all Catholic property. No Catholic Priest or Bishop would be able to override it. If the Papacy wanted to they could seize all the property in his diocese and sell it off. That is the nature of the hierarchal authority of the church. It serves as a checks and balances.
Now the Bishop could try to have his diocese separate from the Catholic Church, but they wouldn't be recognized as Catholic anymore and all the churches, property or assets that he presided over would be seized by the Church. If he wanted to continue to minister, he would essentially have to become Protestant and not claim himself as Catholic.
It's different from American protestant churches where power is set up horizontally (not vertically like the Catholic Church). For instance, TD Jakes is the CEO of his church. He's not a member of a denomination where he would have to answer to some higher authority like a Bishop. He makes all the decisions and if he was to be removed from his church, it would have to come from the congregation itself, and not some higher organizational authority because there is none.
But since he's the CEO, he owns all property and assets so that could cause legal problems. Essentially, his congregation would probably have to leave and start a spinoff if they no longer want to be under his leadership but they couldn't take the church or any affiliated property or assets with them because they are all owned by TD Jakes. In a lot of cases like this, this is where you have a lot of corruption with pastors doing whatever they want to do, especially with money, because their is no higher authority to check them or sets the parameters of spending. The CEO does that and with a lot of Protestant churches in America, the pastor is CEO.
OneManGang
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Would they be able to do this via the courts?
Would who be able to do what?
OneManGang
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To keep it simple, not trying to complicate this
But essentially how can the word of a man in a small piece of territory in the middle of Rome be enforced in America? You mentioned barring him entry, taking assets etc.