Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be "generational"

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The guy has been bashed by the media and is in Jacksonville relentlessly since his rookie year. His 1st coach was urban Meyer who after he got paid admitted he wasn't in it. Then he got Doug Pederson who checked out after year two. Though his 1st year TL made it to the afc title game.

He's had a new OC every year he's been in the league! The best WR they could get for him before BTJ was Kirk. A 5'11 slot guy as WR1. He never got chemistry with BTJ because he got hurt. He got hurt like 3 outta 4 years because his OL been so bad.

What other "generational QB" get called in the office with the HC and OC and told "look we don't care if the OC calls a bad play, STOP audibling from the play and play your position". His last two years he was at war with his OC because press Taylor is a trash OC...but D. Pedersons boy toy.

The guy has had defenses that were nearly historically bad. No type of help. A run game that can be decent in some games DESPITE a lack of run blocking. Absolutely sucked at short yardage.

Yeah he and BTJ don't have that chemistry yet (sometimes it's just like that) but his chemistry fine with other WRs.

This guy hasn't been given nothing to work with. And no chance to get comfortable in a system. Has to learn a new one every season.q
 

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He's only 25 :yeshrug:

Brees didn't become godlike until after he turned 26. Wishful thinking but hey.

The guy has had tge absolute worst support i can think of. Except for Doug pedersons 1st season when he made it to the afc title game with WRs who are 3rd or 4th string on other teams now.
 

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You let us know when it’s okay to hold Trevor Lawrence accountable then.

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It's ok to hold someone immediately accountable for stuff that's in their control breh.

But he cant control not having a coach, a OC, a WR, a OL nor a defense. CJ Stroud at least can rest on having a defense.
 

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It's ok to hold someone immediately accountable for stuff that's in their control breh.

But he cant control not having a coach, a OC, a WR, a OL nor a defense. CJ Stroud at least can rest on having a defense.
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They’re the same thing.

A generational player without generational talent is merely your typical great player.
Definitely not the same thing. A generational player is Tom Brady but he wasn’t a generational talent, it’s completely understandable why he went in the 6th round. A generational talent is Bo Jackson but he didn’t end up being a generational player, mainl because of injuries
 

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The one drafted at #1 a year before him but still no all-pro, OPOY or MVPs. And the way it was looking yesterday. With both lines being weak, it’s gonna take some time
While I disagree with this, its a fairly enough point.
I think someone labeled generational should be that player who has a skill set or athletic talent rarely seen. Not just someone who is great.

Tom Brady was a great player. He was not what I’d call a generational talent.

Michael Vick was a generational player.
Barry Sanders was a generational player.
Who else would I put in that category? To some degree Reggie Bush. Probably Derrick Thomas?
Tom Brady was generational, he was the greatest winner of his generation. That alone makes him generational, and the fact that nobody was even close to his level of winning makes it even more generational.

In the same span of time that Brady won 7 championships, the next closest guys won..............2 (Roethlisberger, Eli, Manning, Mahomes).

This is a generational level of winning, and obviously, being able to win 7 championships doesn't simply happen from having the best coach or quarterback or roster or whatever. He showed time and again a rise to the big moment, more than any of his peers. Tom Brady was absolutely a generational football player.
Andrew Luck lived up to the hype. Took a 2-14 team and went 11-5 his rookie year

Vick was a generational talent but not a generational player. Barry Sanders is the perfect answer. He was a generational talent AND player. Tbh Adrian Peterson was both too IMO
Luck lived up to the rookie year hype. He didn't truly fulfill the hype for his career, the way he was spoken of coming into that draft, he was supposed to be what Mahomes has been (who didn't have anywhere near that kinda hype).
 

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He's only 25 :yeshrug:

Brees didn't become godlike until after he turned 26. Wishful thinking but hey.
Fair enough point. This guy Lawrence isn't even showing the flashes Brees did though. Its Year 5, if he's gonna show flashes of potential Brees-like play, this is the year.
The guy has been bashed by the media and is in Jacksonville relentlessly since his rookie year. His 1st coach was urban Meyer who after he got paid admitted he wasn't in it. Then he got Doug Pederson who checked out after year two. Though his 1st year TL made it to the afc title game.

He's had a new OC every year he's been in the league! The best WR they could get for him before BTJ was Kirk. A 5'11 slot guy as WR1. He never got chemistry with BTJ because he got hurt. He got hurt like 3 outta 4 years because his OL been so bad.

What other "generational QB" get called in the office with the HC and OC and told "look we don't care if the OC calls a bad play, STOP audibling from the play and play your position". His last two years he was at war with his OC because press Taylor is a trash OC...but D. Pedersons boy toy.

The guy has had defenses that were nearly historically bad. No type of help. A run game that can be decent in some games DESPITE a lack of run blocking. Absolutely sucked at short yardage.

Yeah he and BTJ don't have that chemistry yet (sometimes it's just like that) but his chemistry fine with other WRs.

This guy hasn't been given nothing to work with. And no chance to get comfortable in a system. Has to learn a new one every season.q
This is some serious caping.

They said he was generational. A generational quarterback would be able to rise above some of these issues. Manning wasn't drafted to a team with elite grades across coaching, front office, or positions, but because he was a generational player, everything around him clicked.

Saying Lawrence "has had nothing to work with" is a complete lie. You can point out Jacksonville's weaknesses in short yardage while also pointing out he's had good running backs.

He hasn't had a war chest of talent at the skill position but if he was generational the way they told us he was, he and Thomas would be Manning and Harrison. Instead, Thomas is Harrison waiting on an equally talented quarterback to match him and elevate the team.

The Jaguars didn't go to the AFC Championship in 2022; they havent been since 2017.
 

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Dude will be getting like, 37,41,45,50 million dollars over the next 5 years :francis: for being a bubby brister type QB
Looking the part

To not improve to the level he should be by now is nuts with the bread he’s making

But all you have to do is show a hint of promise and you get the benefit of the doubt and the bag as a creh
 
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