Triple H named Head of Talent Relations and Creative in WWE. 2023 and 2024 WON Booker of the Year.

[Rell84shots]

The Vince dikkriding is crazy considering he’s responsible for some of the most terrible shyt we ever seen in the early 2010s

Shyt made me legit stop watching

The HHH dikk riding is worse since he's doing a cheaper version of the same shyt. It's like y'all can't handle when Vince gets the littlest bit of praise.

WWE has such an old roster, especially on the men’s side, I mean just look at who’s 40+

Cody, Cena, Brock, Orton, Roman, Punk, Drew, Usos, GoD, MCMG, Viking Raiders, Styles, Finn, LA Knight, Penta, Sami, KO, Kofi, Sheamus, Aleister, Priest, Miz, Truth, Santos, Nakamura, and Ciampa

And the only young guys that seem to be primed for success are Bron, Dom, Oba, and Jacob (who’s youngish)

They fukking around with Melo, they’ve given up on Theory, Solo a midcard comedy heel, Rey Fenix and Dragon Lee should primed to be the next big luchadors but they’re not.

Like I’ve been saying all year, that’s not good, they’ve become late 90s WCW, while as you said, AEW has a youth movement going for them, and yes they do have old talent as well but they’re not all over the main event scene.

The difference is timing. WWE can get away with the old movement since they're the most dominant brand by far, whereas back in the 90s WCW lost their grip right when the WWE started getting younger and actually had charisma.

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

and I don’t care about age tbh

I don’t know why that’s such a problem

Other faces should be mixed in tho

 

[Mike the Executioner]

^ a lot of those arguments aren’t good imo

There’s a lot different in TKO era that’s different that Vince would have adjusted to and done the same thing.

They clearly want Cody defending three weeks later on espn, which is the smart choice.

Naomi got pregnant I’m not mad at them for not forcing a match with Stephanie vs someone when they can also just have the match on espn as well

Clash at Paris is a pretty good card imo


Wwe problem is milking everything and not tryin

I don’t watch raw and smackdown it’s all the same shyt


Each show will start with wwe showing every one walking into the arena, every time… and then format the same shyt week and week out

Like switch it up damn. Be creative. And stop making feuds 3 years long and not giving anyone else feuds or opportunities to show out on PLEs

This is like sheamus first singles match on a PLE in two years

Triple H is basically booking like Vince with the same mentality if you think about it

But they're undercutting their own show to make that happen. You can tell they changed the card at the last minute because the ESPN deal started early. I don't need to watch Clash in Paris because I know nothing interesting will happen. It's an international show, first one in France since Backlash last year, which was a huge success. It's also the last one on Peacock, so you think they would want to go out with a bang. Even when Roman wasn't defending the title (which was rare), he was still wrestling. Cody literally just won back the title he held for a year and already, they're keeping him off TV and cooling him off. If they want to set up the feud with Drew, they need to be in segments together for weeks, instead of giving them less than a month to build to something. They can have a match in Paris, Drew demands a rematch, and continue the feud next month. I bet if Cena wasn't retiring, they wouldn't have him on the show, either.

If Naomi wasn't pregnant, would they have saved her match with Stephanie for next month also? It's a smart choice, right? Why pay $6 to see this big match when you can pay $30 to see it? In storyline, they don't need to wait this long to figure out a solution. Iyo is right there. Rhea is right there. Asuka is right there. Stephanie can face any one of them for the title, or maybe do a fatal four-way. They don't need to wait until September 20 to do any of this, especially since they're going to put the same amount of effort into building these matches up that they're putting in now.

With all of Vince's problems (and believe me, he had many of them that eventually drove me away from the product), he wasn't a slow person. If something needed to be done, it got done. It wouldn't take him four months to think of a name for Seth's group.

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

But they're undercutting their own show to make that happen. You can tell they changed the card at the last minute because the ESPN deal started early. I don't need to watch Clash in Paris because I know nothing interesting will happen. It's an international show, first one in France since Backlash last year, which was a huge success. It's also the last one on Peacock, so you think they would want to go out with a bang. Even when Roman wasn't defending the title (which was rare), he was still wrestling. Cody literally just won back the title he held for a year and already, they're keeping him off TV and cooling him off. If they want to set up the feud with Drew, they need to be in segments together for weeks, instead of giving them less than a month to build to something. They can have a match in Paris, Drew demands a rematch, and continue the feud next month. I bet if Cena wasn't retiring, they wouldn't have him on the show, either.

If Naomi wasn't pregnant, would they have saved her match with Stephanie for next month also? It's a smart choice, right? Why pay $6 to see this big match when you can pay $30 to see it? In storyline, they don't need to wait this long to figure out a solution. Iyo is right there. Rhea is right there. Asuka is right there. Stephanie can face any one of them for the title, or maybe do a fatal four-way. They don't need to wait until September 20 to do any of this, especially since they're going to put the same amount of effort into building these matches up that they're putting in now.

With all of Vince's problems (and believe me, he had many of them that eventually drove me away from the product), he wasn't a slow person. If something needed to be done, it got done. It wouldn't take him four months to think of a name for Seth's group.

Not every show has to be Unpredictable though. The problem is when it’s unpredictable and there’s no good story. It’s a B level PLE that has a lot of big names for it that’s worth watching especially if the crowd is insane like last year so I disagree.


Most of the problems people list on here not really problems in my opinion just personal nitpicks because creative sucks.

People are trying to complain about age but if we swapped everyone at the top with 20 years, besides fresh new faces everything will get old quick based on how they book things

They’re creatively bankrupt


They are undercutting talent though. The mid cards never get any love on PLEs anymore… they feel like after thoughts and only perform on shows where wwe trains you to think nothing matters

Instead of having cm punk vs Seth Rollins beef for two years straight they should be split away and facing younger talent or feuding with newer faces like Penta

Instead it’s the same shyt and guys who are on fire organically get put to the side



We need more examples of dom vs AJ….. if AJ eventually wins the title nobody is going to cry the older guy is winning the ic title because dom is being booked organically and mixing in with talent his age and older

They don’t apply that anywhere else and suffers because of it

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

 

[Easy-E]

Because there was only one belt. Seth was still a multi time world champion who beat Cena in a title vs title match at Summerslam, Beat Brock Lesnar for the Universal title, Headlined three straight PPVs vs Cody, Was the chosen champion for The Authority, etc.


Everybody can't always be on top. Look at Randy Orton rn. But Seth was 1000% already a made guy.

The only people you can really argue that maybe broke through under HHH would be Gunther, Priest ehh, Jey Uso, and LA Knight

IDK what we're arguing about

My point still stands; the same people at the top during that time are at the top now. We need some new blood.

stall me out breh, I just dropped 3K at the auto shop

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Not every show has to be Unpredictable though. The problem is when it’s not unpredictable and there’s no good story. It’s a B level PLE that has a lot of big names for it that’s worth watching especially if the crowd is insane like last year so I disagree.


Most of the problems people list on here not really problems in my opinion just personal nitpicks because creative sucks.

People are trying to complain about age but if we swapped everyone at the top with 20 years, besides fresh new faces everything will get old quick based on how they book things

They’re creatively bankrupt


They are undercutting talent though. The mid cards never get any love on PLEs anymore… they feel like after thoughts and only perform on shows where wwe trains you to think nothing matters

Instead of having cm punk vs Seth Rollins beef for two years straight they should be split away and facing younger talent or feuding with newer faces like Penta

Instead it’s the same shyt and guys who are on fire organically get put to the side



We need more examples of dom vs AJ….. if AJ eventually wins the title nobody is going to cry the older guy is winning the ic title because dom is being booked organically and mixing in with talent his age and older

They don’t apply that anywhere else and suffers because of it

Yeah, I don't have a problem with the main eventers being older. If they can still perform at a high level and fans still respond to them, it doesn't matter. Cena was pushing 40 when he had one of the best runs of his career. Undertaker was actually in his 40s when he was having those WrestleMania classics. Guys like Cody, Drew, and Damian weren't ready when they were younger (Cody actually had it back then, but Vince didn't invest in him). They leveled up and became undeniable talents, so they're getting their flowers now.

Punk/Seth really disappoints me because when Punk came back, I was hyped up for him to face Seth. Then I was sad because Punk had to miss WrestleMania and we were this close to getting it. Then the match finally happened and we got some great moments afterwards (Seth yelling at Punk to die while Cena has him in the STF, the triple threat with Roman), but that feud is dead. There's no heat anymore. It's like that girl you meet and you can't stop thinking about her and you finally seal the deal, but after a while, the sex loses that spark and you're ready to be with someone else.

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

IDK what we're arguing about

My point still stands; the same people at the top during that time are at the top now. We need some new blood.

stall me out breh, I just dropped 3K at the auto shop

Yeah that’s a good point.. another thing that’s a vince mcmahonism


Besides Austin theory it was still Lesnar vs Roman 27373727273372727272

It needs to be a mix

It should be more of
Roman vs fat Austrian boy
Dom vs AJ

 

[Silkk]

IDK what we're arguing about

My point still stands; the same people at the top during that time are at the top now. We need some new blood.

stall me out breh, I just dropped 3K at the auto shop

Yikes

 

[Organic Trees]

The HHH dikk riding is worse since he's doing a cheaper version of the same shyt. It's like y'all can't handle when Vince gets the littlest bit of praise.

The difference is timing. WWE can get away with the old movement since they're the most dominant brand by far, whereas back in the 90s WCW lost their grip right when the WWE started getting younger and actually had charisma.

Yall say the dumbest shyt on here. We all watched the same product that had John Cena killing nikkas and burying whole stables by himself. But HHH is somehow worse?

Sheamus vs Del Rio for almost 10 PLE straight

Looney tunes big dawg Roman

Hornswoggle winning an actual belt

Alexa bliss mega push

Big show heel/face turn number 800000000

Come on my nikka. Vince legitimately almost killed his own product

 

[OneDeep]

IDK what we're arguing about

My point still stands; the same people at the top during that time are at the top now. We need some new blood.

stall me out breh, I just dropped 3K at the auto shop

We have new blood in Bronson, Bron, Tiffany, Lyra & others but some people still aren’t satisfied

 

[Reality Check]

and I don’t care about age tbh

I don’t know why that’s such a problem

Other faces should be mixed in tho

At some point they're going to have to elevate the younger talent and give them some meaningful, non-filler feuds to see if they can sink or swim. Father time is undefeated and you have a lot of guys in big spots that are getting closer and closer to it.

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

At some point they're going to have to elevate the younger talent and give them some meaningful, non-filler feuds to see if they can sink or swim. Father time is undefeated and you have a lot of guys in big spots that are getting closer and closer to it.

We need more shyt like undertaker vs Jeff Hardy in a ladder match

Where if even if the young guys don’t win they still look good

 

[Easy-E]

We have new blood in Bronson, Bron, Tiffany, Lyra & others but some places still aren’t satisfied

You are correct.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Call it beating a dead horse but if Melo was pushed the way Bron, Tiffany and Lyra are I think a lot of us would be a little more pleased with the new crop