Troy Ave vs Joey Bada$$ (Round 2: Joey goes twitter fingers, Troy retaliates with more ether)

[Cadillac]

Somebody with sanity

I feel like I'm playing myself even entertaining this discussion for a split second let alone posting lines from Hit Em Up to prove to somebody it's better than this fukkin TROY AVE song

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

I just don't really see why Hit Em Up was brought into this conversation. Lol. I guess it's more well thought out cause he atleast attempts to be witty. Pac's thought process wasn't to be witty. It was to be ruthless and embarrass Biggie. It was calculated as well but with a different goal. This Troy Ave song is kinda corny to me. That splat man line was dope tho. The way he set it up and everything. And I feel bad for admitting that cause it's so disrespectful.lol

Thanks breh for being honest. That's simply all we were getting at. The Pac comment came cuz someone joked that todays rap fans wouldn't be able to handle something as ruthless as Hit Em Up. Wicked Lames came in like "don't you dare compare this to hit em up, hit em up was amazing" and Cadillac simply asked him "apart from the vulgur, disprespectful tone of Hit Em Up what was amazing about it?" and Wicked Lames hasn't been able to answer. That's the problem when people just dikkride whatever is popular, whenever they are asked to explain what makes something hot to them personally they can never answer.



Yeah Pac is my GOAT and I understand that he makes a different kind of music, driven a lot more by emotion.

The line was dope though and it doesn't take a fan to admit that.

 

[spliz]

Thanks breh for being honest. That's simply all we were getting at. The Pac comment came cuz someone joked that todays rap fans wouldn't be able to handle something as ruthless as Hit Em Up. Wicked Lames came in like "don't you dare compare this to hit em up, hit em up was amazing" and Cadillac simply asked him "apart from the vulgur, disprespectful tone of Hit Em Up what was amazing about it?" and Wicked Lames hasn't been able to answer. That's the problem when people just dikkride whatever is popular, whenever they are asked to explain what makes something hot to them personally they can never answer.



Yeah Pac is my GOAT and I understand that he makes a different kind of music, driven a lot more by emotion.

The line was dope though and it doesn't take a fan to admit that.

Yea I can't stand Troy Ave and I feel like the line is dope. Lol. He set it up perfect. No denying that. And like I said it's hard for me to admit cause it was so disrespectful. Lol

 

[spliz]

Better song yeah hit em up is better but that's not what I'm arguing.

I'm asking guy post a line better than splatman.


I get the execution and delivery bruh I do.. But Troy's execution on the your killing yourself, and splatman line were great to b

Yea the splat man line was fire. The set up and execution.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

bum get the fukk outta here you've embarrassed yourself

Niqqa said post a line better than "SPLAT"

Post a group of bars in the song "hit em up" MORE VULGAR THAN THIS:

Cause I'm a savage, this gon leave you sad bytch
Don't get suicidal like ya friend, here's a casket
Steez burning in Hell , my burner's in my belt
I'm really killing shyt, you nikkas killing yourself
fukking weirdos, off the roof, "Steer clear yo!"
This nikkas tryna fly, he think he a superhero
Splat man! fukk you and that man
And all three labels you signed to, they wack man


I don't even LIKE Troy Ave outside of that NYC album. I think he's not that great.
Guess who else fits in the same category: Joey Mad-Ass...like saddam spelled backwards.
This nikka is like papoose without the reach bars and a more struggle sloppy flow.
Both of em trash like shyt...Joey is just packaged to appeal to "real hip hop" nikkas.
If he's real hip hop, where are his battles?
Where are his cypher videos from events like Rocksteady?
Where are the videos from him in high school rapping for a crowd?
NOWHERE...he's the exact same as these other nikkas y'all like. A plant.

 

[FreshAIG]

Joey not getting 50k a damn show

Not every show but when he does big arena shows he does actually. I know this factually.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Yea I can't stand Troy Ave and I feel like the line is dope. Lol. He set it up perfect. No denying that. And like I said it's hard for me to admit cause it was so disrespectful. Lol

Yeah all he said was nothing in Hit Em Up was as clever as that line. Which to me is obvious cuz Pac was just going straight at Biggie no metaphors or nothing. I don't see how anyone could even deny that. I'm eager to see what lines @WickedGames would think were nicer than that Troys in Hit Em Up

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[spliz]

Yeah all he said was nothing in Hit Em Up was as clever as that line. Which to me is obvious cuz Pac was just going straight at Biggie no metaphors or nothing. I don't see how anyone could even deny that. I'm eager to see what lines @WickedGames would think were nicer than that Troys in Hit Em Up

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I mean Pac said it himself "this ain't no freestyle battle all u nikkas gettin killed.." he obviously was aiming at a different goal. Lol

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

@Capo Dei Capi I'll post the lyrics...let's see.

[Verse 1: 2Pac]
First off, fukk your bytch and the clique you claim
Westsidewhen we ride, come equipped with game
You claim to be a player but I fukked your wife
We bust on Bad Boys, nikkas fukked for life
Plus Puffy tryna see me, weak hearts I rip
Biggie Smalls and Junior M.A.F.I.A. some mark-ass bytches
We keep on coming while we running for your jewels
Steady gunning, keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Lil' Caesar go ask you homie how I'll leave you
Cut your young ass up, leave you in pieces
Now be deceased
Little Kim, don't fukk around with real G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass off the streets
So fukk peace
I'll let them nikkas know it's on for life
Don't let the Westside ride the night
Bad Boy murdered on wax and killed
fukk with me and get your caps peeled
You know

[Verse 3: 2Pac]
Peep how we do it
Keep it real as penitentiary steel
This ain't no freestyle battle
All you nikkas getting killed with your mouths open
Trying to come up off of me, you in the clouds hoping
Smoking dope, it's like a sherm high
nikkas think they learned to fly
But they burn, motherfukker, you deserve to die
Talking about you getting money
But it's funny to me
All you nikkas living bummy
Why you fukking with me?
I'm a self-made millionaire!
Thug livin', out of prison
Pistols in the air
Biggie, remember when I used to let you sleep on the couch
And beg a bytch to let you sleep in the house?
Now it's all about Versace, you copied my style
5 shots couldn't drop me, I took it and smiled
Now I'm back to set the record straight
With my AK, I'm still the thug that you love to hate
Motherfukker I'll hit em up

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

@Capo Dei Capi I'll post the lyrics...let's see.


Plus Puffy tryna see me, weak hearts I rip
Biggie Smalls and Junior M.A.F.I.A. some mark-ass bytches

We keep on coming while we running for your jewels
Steady gunning, keep on busting at them fools



Talking about you getting money
But it's funny to me
All you nikkas living bummy
Why you fukking with me?

I think he's gonna go with one of these

 

[spliz]

@Capo Dei Capi I'll post the lyrics...let's see.

[Verse 1: 2Pac]
First off, fukk your bytch and the clique you claim
Westsidewhen we ride, come equipped with game
You claim to be a player but I fukked your wife
We bust on Bad Boys, nikkas fukked for life
Plus Puffy tryna see me, weak hearts I rip
Biggie Smalls and Junior M.A.F.I.A. some mark-ass bytches
We keep on coming while we running for your jewels
Steady gunning, keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Lil' Caesar go ask you homie how I'll leave you
Cut your young ass up, leave you in pieces
Now be deceased
Little Kim, don't fukk around with real G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass off the streets
So fukk peace
I'll let them nikkas know it's on for life
Don't let the Westside ride the night
Bad Boy murdered on wax and killed
fukk with me and get your caps peeled
You know

[Verse 3: 2Pac]
Peep how we do it
Keep it real as penitentiary steel
This ain't no freestyle battle
All you nikkas getting killed with your mouths open
Trying to come up off of me, you in the clouds hoping
Smoking dope, it's like a sherm high
nikkas think they learned to fly
But they burn, motherfukker, you deserve to die
Talking about you getting money
But it's funny to me
All you nikkas living bummy
Why you fukking with me?
I'm a self-made millionaire!
Thug livin', out of prison
Pistols in the air
Biggie, remember when I used to let you sleep on the couch
And beg a bytch to let you sleep in the house?
Now it's all about Versace, you copied my style
5 shots couldn't drop me, I took it and smiled
Now I'm back to set the record straight
With my AK, I'm still the thug that you love to hate
Motherfukker I'll hit em up

Everything put together made Hit Em Up dope. From the beat. To the delivery. To Fatal's verse. To the ranting he was doin. And him exposin he fukked Faith. shyt was a storm. That's what made it great. It was never about the lyricism when it came to that song. And he didn't want it to be. He wanted it to be as direct as possible. And it worked.

 

[Uchiha God]

troyave This fukin dweeb says I don't deserve a response meanwhile he's responding with memes and tweets u can't fuk wit me with no raps and u can't fuk wit me in no streets p*ssy! and in reality if u shot then I shot back its action and reaction u stupid drug addict, if I shot 1st then it would be owed a response but use a dub and (NOBODY CARES) and u keep tryna bring other people into it from Kirk Knight to Nas etc. But that's wat pussies like u do, u the type of buster to throw something then hide ya hands and tell the cops when u get ya head bust! Since u wanna bring other people into it I brought ya roof jumpin bestie into it yall nikkas music tell kids that if u commit suicide you'll be a martyr and a legend! My music says don't do that cause you'll be a dikk head and a bozo, what message is right and what message is wrong#TwitterFingers you'll never be poppin in the streets, radios or clubs, you'll always jus be a internet rapper (Link In My Bio)

yeah....troy ave won this

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Everything put together made Hit Em Up dope. From the beat. To the delivery. To Fatal's verse. To the ranting he was doin. And him exposin he fukked Faith. shyt was a storm. That's what made it great. It was never about the lyricism when it came to that song. And he didn't want it to be. He wanted it to be as direct as possible. And it worked.

There's no denying Hit Em Ups impact and nobody is tryna downplay that. The statement was made that the splat line was a better line than any of the lines in Hit Em Up and wicked lames refusal to admit that is the only thing dragging this argument on at this point.

 

[WickedGames]

Yeah all he said was nothing in Hit Em Up was as clever as that line. Which to me is obvious cuz Pac was just going straight at Biggie no metaphors or nothing. I don't see how anyone could even deny that. I'm eager to see what lines @WickedGames would think were nicer than that Troys in Hit Em Up

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so let me be clear are you saying that Hit Em Up wasn't a good song ("nothing was impressive about the songs apart..") or are are you just saying there we no complex lyrics ? Or both


Because I'm telling you is that

1) Hit Em Up is a far better song

2) Hit Em Up has more quotables.

You can lie to yourself about how hard those Troy Ave lines are but I guarantee I will never come across a person in real life to play this song or any Troy Ave for that matter I can recite all the lyrics from Hit Em Up. You and your homies singing BAD ASS ?

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

I'm done here anyway this clown @wickedlames is getting me to defend Troy Ave over Pac with his childish reasoning . You're neg on sight from here on out fukkboy