Troy Ave vs Joey Bada$$ (Round 2: Joey goes twitter fingers, Troy retaliates with more ether)

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Lafarrakhan said:
Troy Ave could've been more creative but this was brutal. He would've been better bringing up how Joey and his moms crossed Steez which kind of led to him killing himself. Going behind his back filing for LLCs and trademarking stuff that was HIS vision. Steez was a good dude. Wasn't a a$$hole or anything like that. If he just went at just Joey don't think anyone would care as much cause no one really rock wt Joey like that.
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Trent said:
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prolly talking about this......you should read the whole article though. shyt is DEEP


http://www.thefader.com/2013/11/26/capital-steez-king-capital/.UpTt0dc3wEl.twitter


While countless resources from Cinematic had gone toward promoting Joey as a star, Steez wasn’t getting the same attention, andAmeriKKKan Korruption wasn’t taking off. Cinematic had two professionally made videos produced for Joey’s tracks around the time that his mixtape, 1999, dropped, but, other than a rough, amateur video for AmeriKKKan Korruption cut “Vibe Ratings,” the crew didn’t release a Steez video (for “Free the Robots”) until September 2012, five months after its initial release. In a similar vein, “Survival Tactics” had initially been credited to Joey Bada$$ and Capital Steez—Steez had found the beat, and the song was his idea—but it had been rebranded as “Joey Bada$$ featuring Capital Steez” by the time the video made by Cinematic’s multimedia partner, Creative Control, was released. It was Joey who Cinematic had been after the whole time, and though Steez had impressed Shipes, he hadn’t convinced him that he would be a good investment. “I don’t think everybody is meant to do business together and that just wasn’t something that fit,” says Shipes. Joey was an easier artist to promote, an energetic MC with plenty of skill and an ineffable cool, in contrast to Steez, whose scruffy image and strong viewpoints didn’t lend themselves easily to the superficial whims of the blogosphere. “He could have been commercial if he sacrificed a few things, which he wasn’t willing to do,” says Jesse Rubin, who worked at Cinematic before leaving later in 2012.

Steez was painfully sensitive to the lack of recognition for the project. During the WNYU segment in April 2012, he talked about feeling like he was getting “slept-on,” and that Joey was soaking up all the attention. “I don’t get hit up for interviews as much as I would like to,” he said. “Forgive me—like Joey, he gets free clothes. I wish I got free clothes!” A video interview released by The Source in June of that year captures the stark differences in personality between the two. Relatable and charming, Joey holds court in front of the group with a microphone that he rarely relinquishes, a kid who clearly enjoys entertaining a crowd. Steez, by contrast, is less polished and a little out there, talking bluntly about his “ascension,” his massive weight loss and how “truthfully in my mind, I’m living in 2047.”

In July, Joey and his mother officially inked a deal with Shipes, and soon after registered Pro Era as an LLC owned by her and Joey. On Cinematic’s Smokers Club tour that summer, a two-month jaunt through 30 cities with headliners Juicy J and Smoke DZA, the group was billed as “Joey Bada$$ and Pro Era.” Steez was becoming the second-in-command of Pro Era, a lieutenant in his own squad. He went on tour anyway, where he had a number of firsts: he did shrooms and lost his virginity, according to his friends, and he went to Canada, where he said to an interviewer that he smoked weed four to seven times a day. But he told his friends back home that he didn’t enjoy eating junk food, getting little sleep and other aspects of life on the road.

Friends say they felt Steez was in a different frame of mind when he returned, and increasingly disillusioned with the rap industry. “He started getting darker almost,” says Jakhari Jack, who would check in with him over the phone while he was on tour. “It went to a different place after that.”
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Living Proof said:
They are both grown :yeshrug:

Cole going at Diggy might have been odd but these are 2 grown men
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I'm not even talking about the beef in particular. Him being in his 30s just makes me think he's lamer than I already did.

On this beef, Joey already achieved more than this dude has as a teenager. He's got so much ammunition got a diss track without going for a lame shock factor angle like Troy
 
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WickedGames said:
I'm not even talking about the beef in particular. Him being in his 30s just makes me think he's lamer than I already did.

On this beef, Joey already achieved more than this dude has as a teenager. He's got so much ammunition got a diss track without going for a lame shock factor angle like Troy
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This is a rap beef. I don't really care about the ages
 
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Instead, we need to look at music's real money makers in 2016, touring and merch. For his part, Joey routinely sells out his Pro Era merch, just got off a 30 city B4.DA.$$ U.S. tour followed immediately by another 30-city world tour that took him everywhere from Belgium to Japan, and has upcoming shows at Coachella and Governor's Ball.

By comparison, it's unclear how much of his merch Troy is moving, plus this NWA ski mask is like a trademark infringement lawsuit you can wear on your face. As for shows, his site doesn't even have a section for tours and shows (not a good sign), so I couldn't tell you. Some wider Googling reveals that he has an upcoming show at Jimmy's Nightclub in Calgary, which boasts a 600-person capacity. It's not exactly Coachella, but he probably gets a couple drink tickets, which is nice.

I clearly have a preference here, but to be clear, I have no actual side in this fight. My only allegiance is to the truth, and the truth is that if Troy really wants to play the "who makes more money from music game?" this beef is not going to go well for him, because nobody's going to care about Troy Ave playing his diss track to small nightclubs while Joey's performing "Ready" in front of 180,000 people at Coachella.

Who Makes More Money From Music, Joey Bada$$ or Troy Ave? - DJBooth
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:mjlol: He has 1 show booked. He won't even sell out a 600 person venue. There's no water bottles big enough to hide this L behind.

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Troy Ave won.


Dude was on life support now he buzzing. For how long? dunno, and maybe it's the dry ass rap climate where people tired of talking about Kanye, but his buzz is back from the dead.
 
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NigerianDonDada said:
"This gonna leave you sad bytch
Don't be suicidal like your friend heres a casket
Steez burnin in hell, my burners on my belt
I'm really killing shyt, you nikkas killing yourself
fukking widows, off the roofs
Steer clear yo, this nikka tryna fly
He think he a superhero, Splat man
fukk you and that man"

:damn: :mjcry:
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you forgotten where you're really from, you're really a bum
on top of that, you're silly and dumb
but i was nice to you, a real brother instead.
hung out with you on mothers day, because your mother's dead


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