True/False: Rap started falling off when rappers stopped having other musical influences

[jadillac]

When rappers were fans of other types of genres of music it lended to the progression of their music.

Remember that MTV Cribs where Scarface talked about/showed his Pink Floyd albums, and how he was a fan? How many new rappers you think these days ride around bumping old school Pink Floyd or AC/DC, etc? How many ride around listening to the new rock bands of today? My guess is not many.

The greatest rappers & hip-hop producers all had other musical influences whether it was jazz, soul, rock, etc. and it shined thru in their music

Nowadays you can tell alot of these newer dudes never listened to anything but other rappers that sound like them. There's only a few exceptions that you can tell they had a wide array of musical influences.

Agree/disagree?

 

[TAYLONDO SAMSWORTHY]

disagree... rap quality started to decline when recording equipment got too cheap.. it made it too easy to record and put music out...

 

[jadillac]

disagree... rap quality started to decline when recording equipment too cheap.. it made it too easy to record and put music out...

nah, that's a gift and a curse.

It gave alot of talented people a chance to get on, but likewise it made names out of people who had 1 hot beat or hot song. Those people don't last though.

 

[Jerz-2]

Only partially agree, cause what you're saying has merit.

But IMO, the real downfall was when rap became the new drug game. When nikkas like Jeezy came in like "I'm not a rapper, I don't bust freestyles, I'm a trapper."

It's not about an artform now, but getting paper....and at the EXPENSE of the artform, really. Cause ALOT of this bullshyt AIN'T "artistic".

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

Yes and No.

Those influences made some artists into better musicians and artists overall... But others it definitely alienated their fanbases and made people not interested in them anymore

Rappers trying to sing out of nowhere or rap over rock guitars or some acoustic shyt after goin in over hood bangers for years

 

[criminology]

disagree... rap quality started to decline when recording equipment too cheap.. it made it too easy to record and put music out...

That happened around the same time that samples became really expensive, which I think was a bigger problem. Taking sampling away from NY hip hop was like taking away the trumpet from jazz or the guitar from rock. Hip hop still endured and evolved but it would have been much more vibrant if sampling didn't become prohibitively expensive for most people.

 

[Entrapta310]

This is an intelligent thread title and I never saw this idea for discussion before on here.
I agree.

TRUE

 

[Peter Parker]

disagree... rap quality started to decline when recording equipment too cheap.. it made it too easy to record and put music out...

Nah, there's a ridiculous amount of talented musicians that we absolutely wouldn't have without the easy access to recording equipment


And yeah OP, I kind of agree, the best rappers out today seem to have influences outside of rap, even Nas grew up on Jazz

 

[Peter Parker]

Only partially agree, cause what you're saying has merit.

But IMO, the real downfall was when rap became the new drug game. When nikkas like Jeezy came in like "I'm not a rapper, I don't bust freestyles, I'm a trapper."

It's not about an artform now, but getting paper....and at the EXPENSE of the artform, really. Cause ALOT of this bullshyt AIN'T "artistic".

Jeezy was hot though

 

[MikeyC]

Agree to an extent.

Older heads like Scarface had to listen artists like Pink Floyd and them because thats all there was for him growing up, whereas millenial rappers, growing up, had rap music that was a lot more broader, sonically; you had your traditional boom-bap, your trap, your bounce, hyphy, "neo-soul" rnb infused rap, nu-metal, backpack/underground/nerd shyt etc

And anyways, I know of a few younger emcees who fukks wit other genres like Danny Brown and Ty Dolla Sign

 

[Firefly]

Whole generation of kids who can't read, write or articulate making Hit records because the beats are catchy. If a bytch can shake her ass you ain't gotta say a goddamn thing.


Your future prospects are grim but as long as you can stunt on poor and underprivileged people for a little bit you won I guess.

 

[frush11]

Yeah, and this happens to every genre.

 

[SirBiatch]

Rap declined for so many reasons that it's impossible to list them all. But one of them is certainly "giving a fukk what some cac rock-based hipster cared about their music"

CAC: "He likes Pink Floyd, so he must know real music. Up until this point, I just assumed he made street monkey music"

 

[TAYLONDO SAMSWORTHY]

nah, that's a gift and a curse.

It gave alot of talented people a chance to get on, but likewise it made names out of people who had 1 hot beat or hot song. Those people don't last though.

great point.. saturated the game with bs.. made it harder to find good music cuz there's sp much more garbage we have to dig thru..

 

[TAYLONDO SAMSWORTHY]

disagree... rap quality started to decline when recording equipment got too cheap.. it made it too easy to record and put music out...