Trump Admin error sends Legal Maryland Father to Salvadoran Prison - UPDATE 4/10: Supreme Court Orders Return. Will Trump obey????

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The fact that at least 50% of your country are not out there protesting in the streets is absolutely crazy from an European POV.
Americans are abnormal. Our hyper individualism makes up pacified in the face of fascism. Most of us know this is very wrong but paying our bills and catching up the next hit on Netflix is is our primary concern.
It would take a millions of Americans being out of work with no economic prospects for people to get active. During the BLM protests a lot people were out of work and had time to get out there and protest.
 

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Someone who is smart, please enlighten me on how the President of El Savador can't release and return a prisoner in one of his prisons?


El Salvador’s Bukele, meeting with Trump, says he won't return migrant wrongfully deported​

Trump officials said Kilmar Abrego Garcia's fate is up to El Salvador.
ByAlexandra Hutzler
April 14, 2025, 12:31 PM

President Donald Trump and El Salvador's President Nayib Bukele, meeting at the White House on Monday, were pressed repeatedly on what's next regarding the wrongful deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a migrant from Maryland.

Attorney General Pam Bondi told reporters in the Oval Office, "It's up to El Salvador if they want to return him," and Secretary of State Marco Rubio called him a citizen of El Salvador.

Bukele, the self-described "world's coolest dictator" who has become a key ally in the administration's controversial migrant deportations, indicated, when a reporter asked, that he would not take action to release Abrego Garcia.

"I don't have the power to return him to the United States," Bukele said.

The Supreme Court last week ordered the Trump administration to "facilitate" the return of Abrego Garcia. Trump on Friday said, "If the Supreme Court said bring somebody back, I would tell them to do that. I respect the Supreme Court."


Trump appeared to amend that statement, though, in a social media post over the weekend where he suggested the fate of those deported now rests with Bukele.

"Looking forward to seeing President Bukele, of El Salvador, on Monday! Our Nations are working closely together to eradicate terrorist organizations, and build a future of Prosperity. President Bukele has graciously accepted into his Nation’s custody some of the most violent alien enemies of the World and, in particular, the United States," Trump wrote. "These barbarians are now in the sole custody of El Salvador, a proud and sovereign Nation, and their future is up to President B and his Government."

The Justice Department argued in court filings that the courts had "no authority" to direct how the executive branch engages in foreign relations and argued the administration could not interfere with El Salvador's sovereignty. Another hearing is set in the case for Tuesday.

Ahead of Monday's meeting, President Trump said he thought Bukele was "doing a fantastic job" and "taking care of a lot of problems that we have that we really wouldn't be able to take care of from a cost standpoint."

"We have some very bad people in that prison, people that should have never been allowed into our country, people that murder drug dealers, some of the worst people on Earth are in that prison and he's able to do that," Trump told reporters on Air Force One as he returned to Washington from Florida on Sunday.
 

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That citizen was Salvadorian. This will not happen to Black Americans, at all. I don’t support Trump but I also will not start making outlandish leaps.
Idk trump crazy as a mf
 

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ICE Agents Realize They Arrested Wrong Teen, Say 'Take Him Anyway'​


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Trump Floats Deporting Some US Criminals To El Salvador: 'Monsters'

By Billal Rahman

Immigration Reporter

Federal immigration authorities apprehended a 19-year-old in New York despite realizing he was not the intended target.

The young man, Merwil Gutiérrez, was later deported to El Salvador's notorious super prison, despite his family's insistence that he has no gang ties or criminal history.

His father, Wilmer Gutiérrez, is now searching for answers after his son was snatched by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents.

"The officers grabbed him and two other boys right at the entrance to our building. One said, 'No, he's not the one,' like they were looking for someone else. But the other said, 'Take him anyway,'" Wilmer told Documented, "an independent, nonprofit newsroom dedicated to reporting for immigrant communities in New York City."

CECOT


Inmates remain in a cell at the Counter-Terrorism Confinement Centre (CECOT) mega-prison, where hundreds of members of the MS-13 and 18 Street gangs are being held, in Tecoluca, El Salvador on January 27, 2025. Marvin Recinos/Getty



Why It Matters


El Salvador's President Nayib Bukele responded Monday to questions about the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, stating that he lacked the authority to return individuals sent by the U.S. to the Terrorism Confinement Center (CECOT).

This remark came amid growing criticism of the government's handling of due process, opponents accusing the administration of bypassing legal safeguards in its treatment of deportees. Critics argue that Garcia's deportation reflects a broader pattern of disregarding constitutional rights, sparking concerns over the erosion of legal protections in the country's justice system.

President Donald Trump has pledged to conduct the largest deportation operation in American history as his administration looks to remove millions of undocumented immigrants. The White House has said anyone living in the country unlawfully is considered a "criminal" by the federal government. Since the beginning of Trump's second term, thousands of migrants have been arrested.



What To Know


Gutiérrez, who fled instability in Venezuela and was pursuing an asylum case in the U.S, was detained in the Bronx by ICE agents conducting a targeted operation.

According to his father, the agents initially acknowledged he was not the individual they were seeking—but chose to detain him anyway.

Just days later, Gutiérrez was deported to El Salvador, where he was transferred to a high security prison known for housing members of violent gangs, including the transnational criminal group Tren de Aragua.

His family and attorneys say he has no criminal record, no gang affiliations, and "not even a tattoo," which authorities often use to profile alleged gang members.

Wilmer Gutiérrez last spoke to his son on March 16 during a brief call allowed by police. He had spent days searching for information, visiting police stations and courthouses, only to be told there was no record of his son.

During the call, Merwil Gutiérrez said he was being held in Pennsylvania and expected to be transferred to Texas before returning to Venezuela. That transfer never happened.

Wilmer Gutiérrez later discovered through a news report that his son had been deported to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. Videos circulating online showed detainees in harsh conditions, their heads shaved and marched to cells.

"I could have understood if he'd been sent back to Venezuela," he said. "But why to a foreign country he's never even been to?"

In May 2023, Wilmer Gutiérrez left Venezuela with his son Merwil and nephew Luis, traveling through Colombia and the Darién Gap into Panama. The monthlong journey eventually brought them to Ciudad Juárez, Mexico, where they applied for Temporary Protected Status (TPS) through the CBP One app. While waiting for their immigration appointment, they took temporary jobs and slept near the border to keep their place in line.

Before leaving Venezuela, Wilmer had lived in Los Teques, near Caracas, working for the state oil company PDVSA and later running a cellphone repair business. However ongoing political instability and a collapsing economy made it increasingly difficult to support his family, including his three children and his mother, who was battling cancer.



What People Are Saying


William Parra, an immigration attorney from Inmigración Al Día said: "Merwil was detained for hanging out with friends and was at the wrong place at the wrong time. ICE was not looking for him, nor is there any evidence whatsoever that Merwil was in any gang."

Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, senior fellow at the American Immigration Council said in a post on X, formerly Twitter: "19-year-old Merwil Gutierrez was grabbed off the street in New York City days before he was sent to El Salvador. His family insists he has no connection to Tren de Aragua. He doesn't even have any tattoos."



What Happens Next


Gutiérrez's legal team is calling for immediate diplomatic intervention to secure his release and safe return.
 

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Oh well :yeshrug:Didn’t Latinos vote for this? If you break laws and make life dangerous for civilians I’m all for deporting. Let them fight

“If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.”
 

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1/11
@MeidasTouch
This is basically every JD Vance tweet

[Quoted tweet]
Are you proposing that we invade El Salvador to retrieve a gang member with no legal right to be in our country?

Where in the Supreme Court’s decision does it require us to do that?


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2/11
@The_1Asher
Supposed "strongmen" are really more like strawmen



3/11
@aliciablackgirl
We don’t take advice from dictators, and we shouldn’t be sending people to them either. Due process exists to avoid this very scenario.



4/11
@wrens_dens




5/11
@suunasolkija
Every JD Vance tweet reads like a guy who overheard half a conversation at Denny’s and sprinted to the Senate floor screaming “SO YOU WANT TO INVADE EL SALVADOR??”

No, JD. They said they like pancakes. Nobody asked you to launch a geopolitical fever dream with a side of fearmongering syrup.

Seek help. Or a dictionary. Either works.



6/11
@TheRevSFA
What do you expect from a guy who breaks a trophy



7/11
@poppadahut
There's this thing called the 8th amendment



8/11
@beancounters516
this



9/11
@PflaumMatthew
But also, you are permitted to dislike waffles just fyi. It’s like a human right and stuff.



10/11
@kholtonkjd
Painfully accurate



11/11
@swskaggs
Clever Girl...



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We are going to need a reorganization of the federal government via new amendments so this crap never happens again. FBI and DOJ need to be placed under the judicial branch. We also need to close the loophole for Trump to get a third term. I don't think his argument is valid but he's gonna try. We do need to strengthen states rights to help mitigate some of this stuff as well. I don't think the founding fathers thought someone as unscrupulous as Trump would ever be President where they would just be so corrupt and ignore the Constitution and Laws like this
The founding fathers were just as unscrupulous as Trump and maybe even moreso.

There’s not gonna be a reorganization of anything to the benefit of the common people.

For years we’ve been hearing about plans to round certain citizens up and put them into camps after martial law has been declared after a major catastrophic event, but people said that was just “conspiracy talk” and had big jokes about tin foil hats.

Well it ain’t very funny now. They played a clip of trump telling the president from El Salvador that the next wave would be native born citizens, and said he’d need to build about 5 more facilities. They chuckled like it was a joke but I don’t doubt it one bit. Why have a buncha camps here when you can contract that out to some South American country where the prisoners are out of sight and out of mind?
 

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1/12
@ggreenwald
Please read this 3-0 ruling written by Reagan appointee Harvie Wilkinson, one of the US's most respected conservative judges, a defender of executive power.

It excoriates the Trump Admin's ignoring of the 9-0 SCOTUS order requiring it to "facilitate" Abrego Garcia's release.👇

[Quoted tweet]
Full order, six pages, is here: storage.courtlistener.com/re…


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2/12
@ggreenwald
I understand there are some Trump supporters who don't care if he violates the Constitution or the law, especially regarding deportations.

But this opinion is only 6 pages. It's for the public to read. If you've opined on this case, please read it:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf



3/12
@CommonSentiment
Oh my god, a Reagan judge? Like as in Ronald Reagan? Oh wow that changes everything we need to bring him back for the Gipper wow so true Glenn!



4/12
@ggreenwald
The point is to read the ruling. It's 6 pages long. It's written for public consumption. Do you think your brain can stay away long enough from the joys of tweeting to focus on a 6-page judicial opinion and decide the merits for yourself?



5/12
@winfieldryan
He’s home Glenn. Move along.



6/12
@ggreenwald
I don't care about whether Abrego Garcia is found to be a gang member after the government shows its evidence.

I care about the Trump Admin ignoring and thus violating a 9-0 unanimous ruling of the Supreme Court. You should read the opinion.



7/12
@EmilyPeaceFranz
Glen, Garcia is not a, "RESIDENT" of the U.S. He is an illegal. That makes all the difference in what this document is stating.



8/12
@ggreenwald
LOL. You're claiming you read the ruling and it's in favor of the Trump Admin, or that the appeals court didn't realize that he entered the country illegally? Did you even read the ruling?



9/12
@JackSpitz5
I'm still trying to figure out how the court has the power to remove a Salvadoran citizen from El Salvador.
He isn't an American citizen.



10/12
@ggreenwald
If you're curious about that, you should read it. That's why I posted it and encouraged people to read it. The rationale is supplied there.

You don't have to agree with it. Or you can think it doesn't matter if Trump ignores court orders. But at least you'll know the arguments.



11/12
@E_RecallAllGovs
Appeal to authority is too simple for your talents…



12/12
@ggreenwald
That's why I encouraged people to read the case. The rationale and arguments are in there.

And I only pointed out who appointed him because Trump officials keep trying to mislead people into believing that it's only left-wing judges ruling against them.




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1/13
@WilliamBaude
WILKINSON, Circuit Judge, with whom KING and THACKER, Circuit Judges, join:



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2/13
@WilliamBaude
Full order, six pages, is here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf



3/13
@Deepbunk
Hopefully the Trump administration will continue to ignore this - they did the right thing



4/13
@FlyGirlaviatrix
What does getting him due process look like? From my understanding the deportation stay was only to not send him to El Salvador. Also, MS-13 is now considered a terrorists organization. Does that mean he comes back to a US, being jailed as a terrorists as he awaits due process? Does that mean he gets deported to a third country as his due process?



5/13
@Cbiski
Did you really think that Trump would ever “respect the courts” as stated in this? You were way off base if so



6/13
@PandemoniumMT
I read the opinion, and mine hasn't changed. Due process of the law is to be applied to citizens of this country. The courts are trying to manipulate "due process" to retain power for themselves. Trump is trying to fulfill the will of the people. Something the courts never do.



7/13
@DiscoMephisto
Okay. I read it, and I don't care. This POS needed deporting, and so do 20 million more.

Trump didn't cause this. A problem of horrendous magnitude has been dumped on us, and it can't be solved in a way that won't freak you out.

Let them excoriate.



8/13
@ThomSeaton
@IlyaSomin @ScottGreenfield @AndrewCMcCarthy



9/13
@PetePottx
An exceptionally written opinion



10/13
@Destroy2025Now
AMERICA. HAVE YOU fukkING HAD ENOUGH YET? WHAT THE HELL IS THE HOLDUP?

"He who acts to save his country from tyranny, domestic terrorism, Project 2025, and radical right wing criminals, violates no laws.”



11/13
@Cremfreshy
What is particular about this case that's different from the millions of people Obama deported?



12/13
@Gymno275
This judge is NOT some " fine judge". We disagree with this. The executive has full responsibility and authority to carry out foreign policy which is what this is. Certainly have the SUPREMES weigh in, but they essentially bowed out. Facilitation has many, many meanings.



13/13
@USCG_VET_E203
he already had his due process in the courts and had deportation orders from 6 years ago. so he was already illegally living in this country and for the judge to his Opinion above to say he was a citizen of this country, is blatantly incorrect and the reasons he claimed to not want to go back to El Salvador was due to threats that are no longer in the country so there for i don't know why all of you all are crying and wanting a damn woman beater, gang member/terrorist in your country anyways regardless of what side of the invisible isle your on. If you need the court reports from back when his asylum request was denied, ill be happy to provide them. further more, his lawyer has already been caught falsly stating that the fraction of MS-13 the CHI clamed he was apart of ONLY operates in the NY area is also clearly missleading as his "fraction" also has major presence in the DC/Maryland area in which he lived.




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FILED: April 17, 2025

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS

FOR THE FOURTH CIRCUIT

No. 25-1404

(8:25-cv-00951-PX)

KILMAR ARMANDO ABREGO GARCIA; JENNIFER STEFANIA VASQUEZ

SURA; A.A.V., a minor, by and through his next friend and mother, Jennifer

Vasquez Sura,

Plaintiffs – Appellees,

v.

KRISTI NOEM; TODD LYONS; KENNETH GENALO; NIKITA BAKER;

PAMELA JO BONDI; MARCO RUBIO,

Defendants – Appellants.

O R D E R

WILKINSON, Circuit Judge, with whom KING and THACKER, Circuit Judges, join:

Upon review of the government’s motion, the court denies the motion for an emergency stay pending appeal and for a writ of mandamus. The relief the government is requesting is both extraordinary and premature. While we fully respect the Executive’s robust assertion of its Article II powers, we shall not micromanage the efforts of a fine district judge attempting to implement the Supreme Court’s recent decision.

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It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order. Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done.

This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear. The government asserts that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist and a member of MS-13.

Perhaps, but perhaps not. Regardless, he is still entitled to due process. If the government is confident of its position, it should be assured that position will prevail in proceedings to terminate the withholding of removal order. See 8 C.F.R. § 208.24(f) (requiring that the government prove “by a preponderance of evidence” that the alien is no longer entitled to a withholding of removal). Moreover, the government has conceded that Abrego Garcia was wrongly or “mistakenly” deported. Why then should it not make what was wrong, right?

The Supreme Court’s decision remains, as always, our guidepost. That decision rightly requires the lower federal courts to give “due regard for the deference owed to the Executive Branch in the conduct of foreign affairs.” Noem v. Abrego Garcia, No. 24A949, slip op. at 2 (U.S. Apr. 10, 2025); see also United States v. Curtiss-Wright Exp. Corp., 299

U.S. 304, 319 (1936). That would allow sensitive diplomatic negotiations to be removed from public view. It would recognize as well that the “facilitation” of Abrego Garcia’s return leaves the Executive Branch with options in the execution to which the courts in accordance with the Supreme Court’s decision should extend a genuine deference. That decision struck a balance that does not permit lower courts to leave Article II by the wayside.

The Supreme Court’s decision does not, however, allow the government to doessentially nothing. It requires the government “to ‘facilitate’ Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.” Abrego Garcia, supra, slip op. at 2. “Facilitate” is an active verb. It requires that steps be taken as the Supreme Court has made perfectly clear. See Abrego Garcia, supra, slip op. at 2 (“[T]he Government should be prepared to share what it can concerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further steps.”). The plain and active meaning of the word cannot be diluted by its constriction, as the government would have it, to a narrow term of art. We are not bound in this context by a definition crafted by an administrative agency and contained in a mere policy directive. Cf. Loper Bright Enters. v. Raimondo, 603 U.S. 369, 400 (2024); Christensen v. Harris Cnty., 529 U.S. 576, 587 (2000). Thus, the government’s argument that all it must do is “remove any domestic barriers to [Abrego Garcia’s] return,” Mot. for Stay at 2, is not well taken in light of the Supreme Court’s command that the government facilitate Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador.

“Facilitation” does not permit the admittedly erroneous deportation of an individual to the one country’s prisons that the withholding order forbids and, further, to do so in disregard of a court order that the government not so subtly spurns. “Facilitation” does not sanction the abrogation of habeas corpus through the transfer of custody to foreign detention centers in the manner attempted here. Allowing all this would “facilitate” foreign detention more than it would domestic return. It would reduce the rule of law to lawlessness and tarnish the very values for which Americans of diverse views and persuasions have always stood.

The government is obviously frustrated and displeased with the rulings of the court.
Let one thing be clear. Court rulings are not above criticism. Criticism keeps us on our toes and helps us do a better job. See Cooper v. Aaron, 358 U.S. 1, 24 (1958) (Frankfurter, J., concurring) (“Criticism need not be stilled. Active obstruction or defiance is barred.”). Court rulings can overstep, and they can further intrude upon the prerogatives of other branches. Courts thus speak with the knowledge of their imperfections but also with a sense that they instill a fidelity to law that would be sorely missed in their absence.

“Energy in the [E]xecutive” is much to be respected. F EDERALIST N O . 70, at 423 (1789) (Alexander Hamilton) (Clinton Rossiter ed., 1961). It can rescue government from its lassitude and recalibrate imbalances too long left unexamined. The knowledge that executive energy is a perishable quality understandably breeds impatience with the courts. Courts, in turn, are frequently attuned to caution and are often uneasy with the Executive Branch’s breakneck pace.

And the differences do not end there. The Executive is inherently focused upon ends; the Judiciary much more so upon means. Ends are bestowed on the Executive by electoral outcomes. Means are entrusted to all of government, but most especially to the Judiciary by the Constitution itself.
 

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Trump Says ‘No Trials for Immigrants’; the Supreme Court Just Shut Him Down


Posted on Tue Apr 22 01:40:16 2025 UTC



Commented on Tue Apr 22 02:22:24 2025 UTC

Hey look, the supreme court doing what it's supposed to. That's rare


│ Commented on Tue Apr 22 03:33:40 2025 UTC

https://www.reddit.com/r/IronFrontUSA/s/0C7v7IKkiC

│ Trump has already said he's going to ignore them.

[Twitter] Trump says his mandate lets him ignore the Supreme Court for an issue he made worse after firing 30 immigration judges.



Posted on Tue Apr 22 01:43:09 2025 UTC

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