Trump calls politicians who refuse to say they received Covid boosters 'gutless'

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So in other words, Trump confirms what we have LONG known about him and have been repeating over and over and over... Trump was the one that pushed the vaccines in the first place with Operation Warp Speed and is just doubling down on his original position.
 

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MAGA and liberals who thought Trump was 'against the vaccine' are conveniently ignoring the obvious because they are so invested in their political party that they want to ignore the simple facts. Trump may have been anti-mandate but he was never anti-vaccine

 

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MAGA and liberals who thought Trump was 'against the vaccine' are conveniently ignoring the obvious because they are so invested in their political party that they want to ignore the simple facts. Trump may have been anti-mandate but he was never anti-vaccine





Breh did you forget trump was saying it wasn't real?


He got caught on audio saying the downplaying the virus
 
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So in other words, Trump confirms what we have LONG known about him and have been repeating over and over and over... Trump was the one that pushed the vaccines in the first place with Operation Warp Speed and is just doubling down on his original position.

Very respectfully, I think you may be making up arguments in your own head about this. I think everyone is aware of his previous position as being in favour of vaccination.

I would imagine that, projecting a little from my own view, people are surprised that a man whose political positions are born of expediency has doubled down, and not retreated, in the face of opposition from his own base. He is usually a weathervane when it comes to any positions, but is idly signposting on this one.
 

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:francis: I really hate to do this... but it was the Dems that really did that. There is nothing that Trump said we needed to do that the Dems didn't vilify at one point only to end up doing themselves. The left were literally the anti-vaxxers up until Inauguration Day. He definitely said some silly things during those daily Covid pressers, and the left used that to dissuade the masses from believing there were competent people developing a solution. They made it seem like Trump was cooking up the vaccine in his personal crockpot. He was also hesitant to just print money because he was conscious of the long-term economic ramifications-- now look at where we are with historic levels of inflation. Although most countries "failed" in their own way as well-- the issues here in the US can't be laid at the feet of one man. Remember when the Cuomos were heroes in the early days? Where are they now? Andrew was writing books about how he "beat" the virus :mjlol: We have to be more nuanced in how we analyze these things-- that's the real power the media and politicians have over the general population. They rely on people being unable to sift through the glut of information dumped on us everyday. Notice how the border/immigration crisis (kids in cages) doesn't seem to be the humanitarian crisis it was during the election? Nothing has changed on that front-- it's just not in the headlines; so it's out of sight out of mind. Now we're pivoting back to January 6th.


Ok, there were some on the left going on about not trusting a vaccine that was rushed especially if it ends up being the October surprise. I get the point you are trying to make.

But imo to really make someone against vaccinations you have to make the person not accept science or the scientific process in general. Doing that would involve down playing the severity of the virus which in turn would make your base think that there was no need to get vaccinated in the first place. If you don't need to protect yourself with a mask then why bother with a vaccine?

So even if you point to Dem politicians being weary of a rushed vaccine the well wasn't poisoned enough to forego getting vaccinated because left leaning voters were wearing masks for months and definitely took the virus seriously.
 

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Very respectfully, I think you may be making up arguments in your own head about this. I think everyone is aware of his previous position as being in favour of vaccination.

I would imagine that, projecting a little from my own view, people are surprised that a man whose political positions are born of expediency has doubled down, and not retreated, in the face of opposition from his own base. He is usually a weathervane when it comes to any positions, but is idly signposting on this one.

Everyone isn't aware of his previous position in favor of the vaccination because a lot of these same people were mockingly calling people against the vaccine Trumptards and screaming Maga this and that.
Anybody that is 'surprised' at Trump hasn't been paying attention or is either completely naive on how this system works.. He has never once been against the vaccine, nor has he backed down from pushing it, which isn't surprising because he's part of the system.
 

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Chickens coming home :blessed:

Conservative Cannibalism :blessed:

The logical conclusion to all this sht was delayed for so long it was defying logic itself. :dahell:

Never lost hope tho. It hasn’t quite happened yet but I know you feel it too :mjgrin:

Until then, let’s imagine the absolute maximum capacity of fukkery if Trump went full swing anticovid and became the democratic nominee in 2024:mjlol:

Trump not going to have a base, on either side, left by 2024. Anti vaxx heads are dropping dead with COVID, and the base is rapidly dwindling.
 
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Everyone isn't aware of his previous position in favor of the vaccination because a lot of these same people were mockingly calling people against the vaccine Trumptards and screaming Maga this and that.
Anybody that is 'surprised' at Trump hasn't been paying attention or is either completely naive on how this system works.. He has never once been against the vaccine, nor has he backed down from pushing it, which isn't surprising because he's part of the system.

There is a large crossover between MAGA people; trump supporters; and anti-vaxers. It does not speak necessarily to what they think of Trump himself’s position. I mean, most people clowned him for wanting to rename the vaccines ‘Trumps’.

I don’t really understand what you mean by ‘how this system works’. It’s not as if people don’t have enough to laugh at him for without his position on vaccines.

It is admirable that he is pushing his base, or at least those who were his base, to be vaccinated, even if it comes from a position of self-aggrandisement. It does stink somewhat of the old adage that even a fukked clock is right two times per day.
 
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‘There is a large crossover between MAGA people; trump supporters; and anti-vaxers. It does not s-eat necessarily to what they think of. Trump himself’s position. I mean, most people clowned him for wanting to rename the vaccines ‘Trumps’.

I don’t really understand what you mean by ‘how this system works’. It’s not as if people don’t have enough to laugh at him for without his position on vaccines.

It is admirable that he is pushing his base, or at least those who were his base, to be vaccinated, even if it comes from a position of self-aggrandisement. It does stink somewhat of the old adage that even a fukked clock is right two times per day.

Those who didn't know Trump's position and are acting like this is surprising weren't paying attention period. He's been saying that fast tracking the vaccine is one of his greatest accomplishments. Why should he backtrack on that now?

And 'how the system works' is not hard to figure out. If it's pro corporation, pro-elite and wealthy and pro-removal of our rights. Why are people surprised that Trump backs a product that is making pharmaceuticals filthy rich and refuses to back up off of that position? Why are people surprised Joe Biden backed off of the student loan forgiveness position? Did you really think he was going to go against the banks?

I don't know how many times they need to play the SAME circus for people to get that these professional liars called politicians are not going to help you out. They got people believing they are part of the team that is going to save the world if you only vote for them, meanwhile they are laughing in the backrooms and working together.
 
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