Trump says he plans to end birthright citizenship via executive order

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I’m about to get negged to Bolivia and banned from HL but

But it’s a valid point that giving citizenship to children of illegal aliens and people with tourist visas is legally dubious

Trumps grandparents weren’t illegal and and the vast majority of black immigrants are legal so it wouldn’t effect them

It would only effect people whose both parents are illegal

How is it legallly dubious? The 14th amendment is pretty clear on the matter. :what:

I would also argue that creating a class of stateless children is immoral...but I talking about morality with a Trump supporter is probably an exercise in futility.
 

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How is it legallly dubious? The 14th amendment is pretty clear on the matter. :what:

I would also argue that creating a class of stateless children is immoral...but I talking about morality with a Trump supporter is probably an exercise in futility.

Im not a trump supporter

The morality is neither here nor there

It comes down to the interpretation of the phrase “under the jurisdiction”, legal aliens fall under the jurisdiction of the us, it’s a grey area whether illegal aliens and tourists fall under that phrase
 

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Im not a trump supporter

The morality is neither here nor there

It comes down to the interpretation of the phrase “under the jurisdiction”, legal aliens fall under the jurisdiction of the us, it’s a grey area whether illegal aliens and tourists fall under that phrase

Interpreting this in any way other than "anyone born in the US is a citizen" is a gargantuan stretch. :stopitslime:

Believe Donald Trump over decades of legal precedent, brehs.
 

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Interpreting this in any way other than "anyone born in the US is a citizen" is a gargantuan stretch. :stopitslime:

Believe Donald Trump over decades of legal precedent, brehs.
It’s not a stretch, it’s a grey area, there are other people that are excluded like foreign diplomats, so the question is whether children of illegal aliens should be included

It’s a legal grey area, it is not an open and shut case

Tourist visas and illegal aliens did not exist at the time and if they did it’s doubtful they would have been included

It is an open and shut case for legal immigrants tho, cuz if you are a resident then you are obviously under the jurisdiction of the us, if trump was suggesting taking that away it would be unconstitutional, but he isnt
 

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Send me back to DR then :manny:

Moms was pregnant on the flight to NYC.


If they were to implement this a good chunk of this countries productive citizens would be shipped out. This country would collapse.:sas2:
 

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Send me back to DR then :manny:

Moms was pregnant on the flight to NYC.


If they were to implement this a good chunk of this countries productive citizens would be shipped out. This country would collapse.:sas2:

Maybe you should, where you making the same comments when DR was taking away citizenship from Haitians in the dr?

Whatever energy you had about that keep that same energy with trump
 

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Maybe you should, where you making the same comments when DR was taking away citizenship from Haitians in the dr?

Whatever energy you had about that keep that same energy with trump
I dont agree with what the DR government did . Don’t blame that shyt on me. My youngest sister is half Haitian so you can gtfo with your bullshyt argument.
 
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