Trump shytting on John McCain even after his death; UPDATE: HES STILL DOING IT!

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Say what you want about him. But he is clearly an alpha male (at least around cac men)

The way he talked about Kelly Anne Conway’s husband yesterday is mind blowing. He completely emasculates this women’s husband and the father of her kids, yet she still comes to work everyday with a smile and lies for him..

That’s some alpha male gorilla pimp type mentality.
:hhh:when did it become cool to start using this closeted homo reddit slang? Ill never refer to another male as "alpha male":dame:wild mango
 

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John McCain is no war hero. Mythologies die hard - Adam Townsend

John McCain is a myth, and mythologies die-hard. People need mythologies. We don’t want to let them go, they have to be pried from us. When, and if, we finally let them go we are lighter and heartbroken. We are never quite the same

John McCain, who has risen to political prominence on his image as a Vietnam POW war hero, has, inexplicably, worked very hard to hide from the public stunning information about American prisoners in Vietnam who, unlike him, didn’t return home. Throughout his Senate career, McCain has quietly sponsored and pushed into federal law a set of prohibitions that keep the most revealing information about these men buried as classified documents. Thus the war hero who people would logically imagine as a determined crusader for the interests of POWs and their families became instead the strange champion of hiding the evidence and closing the books.

Almost as striking is the manner in which the mainstream press has shied from reporting the POW story and McCain’s role in it, even as the Republican Party has made McCain’s military service the focus of his presidential campaign. Reporters who had covered the Vietnam War turned their heads and walked in other directions. McCain doesn’t talk about the missing men, and the press never asks him about them.

The sum of the secrets McCain has sought to hide is not small. There exists a telling mass of official documents, radio intercepts, witness depositions, satellite photos of rescue symbols that pilots were trained to use, electronic messages from the ground containing the individual code numbers given to airmen, a rescue mission by a special forces unit that was aborted twice by Washington—and even sworn testimony by two Defense secretaries that “men were left behind.” This imposing body of evidence suggests that a large number—the documents indicate probably hundreds—of the U.S. prisoners held by Vietnam were not returned when the peace treaty was signed in January 1973 and Hanoi released 591 men, among them Navy combat pilot John S. McCain.

Mass of Evidence

The Pentagon had been withholding significant information from POW families for years. What’s more, the Pentagon’s POW/MIA operation had been publicly shamed by internal whistleblowers and POW families for holding back documents as part of a policy of “debunking” POW intelligence even when the information was obviously credible.

The pressure from the families and Vietnam veterans finally forced the creation, in late 1991, of a Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. The chairman was John Kerry. McCain, as a former POW, was its most pivotal member. In the end, the committee became part of the debunking machine.

One of the sharpest critics of the Pentagon’s performance was an insider, Air Force Lt. Gen. Eugene Tighe, who headed the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) during the 1970s. He openly challenged the Pentagon’s position that no live prisoners existed, saying that the evidence proved otherwise. McCain was a bitter opponent of Tighe, who was eventually pushed into retirement.

Included in the evidence that McCain and his government allies suppressed or sought to discredit is a transcript of a senior North Vietnamese general’s briefing of the Hanoi politburo, discovered in Soviet archives by an American scholar in 1993. The briefing took place only four months before the 1973 peace accords. The general, Tran Van Quang, told the politburo members that Hanoi was holding 1,205 American prisoners but would keep many of them at war’s end as leverage to ensure getting war reparations from Washington.

Throughout the Paris negotiations, the North Vietnamese tied the prisoner issue tightly to the issue of reparations. They were adamant in refusing to deal with them separately. Finally, in a Feb. 2, 1973 formal letter to Hanoi’s premier, Pham Van Dong, Nixon pledged $3.25 billion in “postwar reconstruction” aid “without any political conditions.” But he also attached to the letter a codicil that said the aid would be implemented by each party “in accordance with its own constitutional provisions.” That meant Congress would have to approve the appropriation, and Nixon and Kissinger knew well that Congress was in no mood to do so. The North Vietnamese, whether or not they immediately understood the double-talk in the letter, remained skeptical about the reparations promise being honored—and it never was. Hanoi thus appears to have held back prisoners—just as it had done when the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 and withdrew their forces from Vietnam. In that case, France paid ransoms for prisoners and brought them home.

In a private briefing in 1992, high-level CIA officials told me that as the years passed and the ransom never came, it became more and more difficult for either government to admit that it knew from the start about the unacknowledged prisoners. Those prisoners had not only become useless as bargaining chips but also posed a risk to Hanoi’s desire to be accepted into the international community. The CIA officials said their intelligence indicated strongly that the remaining men—those who had not died from illness or hard labor or torture—were eventually executed.

My own research, detailed below, has convinced me that it is not likely that more than a few—if any—are alive in captivity today. (That CIA briefing at the Agency’s Langley, Virginia, headquarters was conducted “off the record,” but because the evidence from my own reporting since then has brought me to the same conclusion, I felt there was no longer any point in not writing about the meeting.)


For many reasons, including the absence of a political constituency for the missing men other than their families and some veterans’ groups, very few Americans are aware of the POW story and of McCain’s role in keeping it out of public view and denying the existence of abandoned POWs. That is because McCain has hardly been alone in his campaign to hide the scandal.

The Arizona senator, now the Republican candidate for president, has actually been following the lead of every White House since Richard Nixon’s, and thus of every CIA director, Pentagon chief, and national security adviser, not to mention dikk Cheney, who was George H.W. Bush’s Defense secretary. Their biggest accomplice has been an indolent press, particularly in Washington.

McCain’s Role

An early and critical McCain secrecy move involved 1990 legislation that started in the House of Representatives. A brief and simple document, it was called “the Truth Bill” and would have compelled complete transparency about prisoners and missing men. Its core sentence reads: “[The] head of each department or agency which holds or receives any records and information, including live-sighting reports, which have been correlated or possibly correlated to United States personnel listed as prisoner of war or missing in action from World War II, the Korean conflict and the Vietnam conflict, shall make available to the public all such records held or received by that department or agency.”

Bitterly opposed by the Pentagon (and thus McCain), the bill went nowhere. Reintroduced the following year, it again disappeared. But a few months later, a new measure, known as “the McCain Bill,”suddenly appeared. By creating a bureaucratic maze from which only a fraction of the documents could emerge—only records that revealed no POW secrets—it turned the Truth Bill on its head. The McCain bill became law in 1991 and remains so today. So crushing to transparency are its provisions that it actually spells out for the Pentagon and other agencies several rationales, scenarios, and justifications for not releasing any information at all—even about prisoners discovered alive in captivity. Later that year, the Senate Select Committee was created, where Kerry and McCain ultimately worked together to bury evidence.


McCain was also instrumental in amending the Missing Service Personnel Act, which had been strengthened in 1995 by POW advocates to include criminal penalties, saying, “Any government official who knowingly and willfully withholds from the file of a missing person any information relating to the disappearance or whereabouts and status of a missing person shall be fined as provided in Title 18 or imprisoned not more than one year or both.” A year later, in a closed House-Senate conference on an unrelated military bill, McCain, at the behest of the Pentagon, attached a crippling amendment to the act, stripping out its only enforcement teeth, the criminal penalties, and reducing the obligations of commanders in the field to speedily search for missing men and to report the incidents to the Pentagon.

About the relaxation of POW/MIA obligations on commanders in the field, a public McCain memo said, “This transfers the bureaucracy involved out of the [battle] field to Washington.” He wrote that the original legislation, if left intact, “would accomplish nothing but create new jobs for lawyers and turn military commanders into clerks.”

McCain argued that keeping the criminal penalties would have made it impossible for the Pentagon to find staffers willing to work on POW/MIA matters. That’s an odd argument to make. Were staffers only “willing to work” if they were allowed to conceal POW records? By eviscerating the law, McCain gave his stamp of approval to the government policy of debunking the existence of live POWs.

McCain has insisted again and again that all the evidence—documents, witnesses, satellite photos, two Pentagon chiefs’ sworn testimony, aborted rescue missions, ransom offers apparently scorned—has been woven together by unscrupulous deceivers to create an insidious and unpatriotic myth. He calls it the “bizarre rantings of the MIA hobbyists.” He has regularly vilified those who keep trying to pry out classified documents as “hoaxers,” “charlatans,” “conspiracy theorists,” and “dime-store Rambos.”

Some of McCain’s fellow captives at Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi didn’t share his views about prisoners left behind. Before he died of leukemia in 1999, retired Col. Ted Guy, a highly admired POW and one of the most dogged resisters in the camps, wrote an angry open letter to the senator in an MIA newsletter—a response to McCain’s stream of insults hurled at MIA activists. Guy wrote, “John, does this [the insults] include Senator Bob Smith [a New Hampshire Republican and activist on POW issues] and other concerned elected officials? Does this include the families of the missing where there is overwhelming evidence that their loved ones were ‘last known alive’? Does this include some of your fellow POWs?”

It’s not clear whether the taped confession McCain gave to his captors to avoid further torture has played a role in his postwar behavior in the Senate. That confession was played endlessly over the prison loudspeaker system at Hoa Lo—to try to break down other prisoners—and was broadcast over Hanoi’s state radio. Reportedly, he confessed to being a war criminal who had bombed civilian targets. The Pentagon has a copy of the confession but will not release it. Also, no outsider I know of has ever seen a non-redacted copy of the debriefing of McCain when he returned from captivity, which is classified but could be made public
Also in this memoir, McCain expresses guilt at having broken under torture and given the confession. “I felt faithless and couldn’t control my despair,” he writes, revealing that he made two “feeble” attempts at suicide. (In later years, he said he tried to hang himself with his shirt and guards intervened.) Tellingly, he says he lived in “dread” that his father would find out about the confession. “I still wince,” he writes, “when I recall wondering if my father had heard of my disgrace.”

He says that when he returned home, he told his father about the confession, but “never discussed it at length”—and the admiral, who died in 1981, didn’t indicate he had heard anything about it before. But he had. In the 1999 memoir, the senator writes, “I only recently learned that the tape … had been broadcast outside the prison and had come to the attention of my father.”

Is McCain haunted by these memories? Does he suppress POW information because its surfacing would rekindle his feelings of shame? On this subject, all I have are questions.

Many stories have been written about McCain’s explosive temper, so volcanic that colleagues are loath to speak openly about it. One veteran congressman who has observed him over the years asked for confidentiality and made this brief comment: “This is a man not at peace with himself.”

He was certainly far from calm on the Senate POW committee. He browbeat expert witnesses who came with information about unreturned POWs. Family members who have personally faced McCain and pressed him to end the secrecy also have been treated to his legendary temper. He has screamed at them, insulted them, brought women to tears. Mostly his responses to them have been versions of: How dare you question my patriotism? In 1996, he roughly pushed aside a group of POW family members who had waited outside a hearing room to appeal to him, including a mother in a wheelchair.

But even without answers to what may be hidden in the recesses of McCain’s mind, one thing about the POW story is clear: if American prisoners were dishonored by being written off and left to die, that’s something the American public ought to know about.


You looking at it from the hindsight 20_20 lens. Majority of the country was against the conflict. You had returning veterans getting kicked, spit on and called names. It was so bad, they let vets go home in civvies to avoid that shyt. Thats why these people be on that hyper patriot shyt.


That and it was just alot of bullshyt politics. Vietnam should have been allies instead of opponents. Most people aint never been tortured, and no matter how big a stepper u are, everyone cracks...everyone. thats why SERE school is important
 

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FIRST OFF PHUK MCCAIN AND THE CLICK HE CLAIM!
RETHUGS, PHUK THE HUGS, COME EQUIP WIT DAMES
YOU CLAIM TO BE A SOLDIER, BUT U WAS CAPTURED, NICE!
JOHN MCCAIN, SESSIONS, COHEN, THEM BUSTAS PHUKED FOR LIFE
I'M A SELF-MADE BILLIONAIRE,
GRABBING BYTCHES BY THE p*ssy, I DON'T EVEN CARE!
MICHAEL COHEN REMEMBER WHEN I USED LET YOU SLEEP IN THE TOWERS
AND BEG THEM CLIENTS TO LET YOU BILL THEM FOR HOURS?!
NOW YOU ALL ABOUT DEMOCRACY!
YOU COPIED MY FILES!
TURNED THEM OVER TO ROBERT MUELLER, I TOOK IT AND SMILED
NOW I'M ABOUT TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT
WITH THE NUCLEAR CODES, I'M THE PREZ THAT YOU LOVE TO HATE
MUPHUKA I HIT EM UP!!!!!!







:pachaha:
Perfectly executed
 

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I need to see the whole clip to get the full context.
I can't stand Trump but he could have been trying to imply that no one in the McCain family thanked him for the funeral he approved.
The way the tweet is captioned I was expecting Trump to say "I don't care about this even though he didn't thank me".
What he actually said was "I don't care about this...I didn't get a thank you".
Which is a little different and doesn't necessarily mean he was saying John McCain himself should have risen from the grave and thanked him.
Either way, the comments in any context were tasteless as hell which is par for the course with this bozo.
I'd still like to see the whole video to be sure about the context.
What difference does that make he’s a bozo
 

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Everybody knows what it is now... This shyt ain’t funny no more. Why care at this point? All these proud to be an Ameeican ass nikkas still fukking with him over the other candidates so why care?
 

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Y’all white boys really trying to pump up this Twitter p*ssy like he’s about something? At least Suge put the physical beats down. Bet this cracker won’t say none of that shyt to anyone’s face and he feels invincible since he’s got the secret service. He’s still a thin skin bytch in the end...
he’s soft let him talk that shyt in prison
At his core he is non empathic, weak, and literally mentally ill.

He's a prime example of toxic masculinity. He's a little dog that barks loud. He's the type to use one of his soldiers as a human shield and beg for his life after losing a duel.

Here he is in the white


Real alpha males build up the weak, take care of others and create leaders and oppurtunities for others.

If Trump is what you think is alpha you are misguided.
trump acts like a misguided kid things a alpha male is loud brash all talk . In all honesty Hes just a narcissist he only cares about how he looks if the liberal media gave him the same fawning devotion that fox does he’d do things to benefit them as well
 

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This doesn’t make him an alpha male.
I wish that term would die...it is destructive as fukk and boys (partiuclarly Black boys) will grow up thinking that being a piece of shyt to people regardless of whether you're in the right or wrong as long as it accomplishes your goals and allows you to acquire women and wealth will think that that shyt is what makes you a man.

The idea that Donald Trump is an "alpha male" is fukking laughable
 

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FIRST OFF PHUK MCCAIN AND THE CLICK HE CLAIM!
RETHUGS, PHUK THE HUGS, COME EQUIP WIT DAMES
YOU CLAIM TO BE A SOLDIER, BUT U WAS CAPTURED, NICE!
JOHN MCCAIN, SESSIONS, COHEN, THEM BUSTAS PHUKED FOR LIFE
I'M A SELF-MADE BILLIONAIRE,
GRABBING BYTCHES BY THE p*ssy, I DON'T EVEN CARE!
MICHAEL COHEN REMEMBER WHEN I USED LET YOU SLEEP IN THE TOWERS
AND BEG THEM CLIENTS TO LET YOU BILL THEM FOR HOURS?!
NOW YOU ALL ABOUT DEMOCRACY!
YOU COPIED MY FILES!
TURNED THEM OVER TO ROBERT MUELLER, I TOOK IT AND SMILED
NOW I'M ABOUT TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT
WITH THE NUCLEAR CODES, I'M THE PREZ THAT YOU LOVE TO HATE
MUPHUKA I HIT EM UP!!!!!!







:pachaha:


Dapped and repped :russ:
 
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