Trump Still Thinks the Central Park Five Are Guilty

[AnonymityX1000]

So if me and a bunch of people break in your house or car can we stay because there's no "humane" way to extract us?

Immigration law exists for a reason. Their plights are real but so are those of the Americans whose jobs they displace and tax money they spend./


Laws against murder, rape etc are enforced when they can be though. If someone commits murder they are getting charged. That's in stark contrast to shyt like sanctuary cities. If people have a problem with immigration law they should lobby to get it changed, not enforce it selectively.

I'd have to kill or severely injure you to get you out, right? Now put that on a scale of millions when it comes to deportation. It's just not feasible breh.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I'd have to kill or severely injure you to get you out, right?

No, most people would probably comply with orders in the face of the barrel of a gun, which immigration law warrants.

If millions of people can migrate from the Middle East to Europe millions can migrate from the US back to Mexico. That we waited this long to take action doesn't mean we can't take any anymore, there's no statue of limitation on this shyt.

 

[King Kreole]

fukk foreign policy. You protect home first. If he still believes black people who were exonerated are still guilty, that tells me a lot about the country he envisions. That misdirection his stans keep bullshytting us with does not work with me. The criminal justice system is a main impediment of black progress. If you have a record, it becomes difficult to obtain meaningful employment, which in turn leads to crime. Many people plead out to felonies because of inadequate representation. If he feels innocent black people are guilty, that tells me he thinks they should no longer be full citizens. If he does not stand up for black people here in the states, that should be a deal breaker for anyone who classifies as black. Bu but illegals are keeping us from jobs...bu but the CF.... bu but super predators. These dumb ass so called black Trump followers conveniently dismiss or minimize all the racist bullshyt he propagates because it does not fit their narrative. If the vision he has for black people in the U.S. does not concern you more than the Middle East, or some other convoluted foreign policy, then you are lost. Ask him where his ties are made. Bu but he's just doing good business. Y'all Trump dudes are, like most of his surrogates, indefatigable with your transparent spin.

ok well this is the difference between you and I. I believe that criminality is bred, not born.You can launch as many DoJ investigations as you want, but until you solve the root issues, namely a corrupt education system that suffocates the chances of underprivileged children before they're even grown and an economic system that is stacked against the African-American community by privileging illegal immigrants and corporations, you're only covering the wound. Of course criminal justice needs reform, and retraining police to treat black people less like animals is a noble goal, but if someone doesn't have a decent education and a decent chance at gainful employment, they lack the mentality and opportunity to invest in their community. Someone with no vested interest in their community is much more likely to turn to destructive or criminal behaviour. If the choice is between having better police interactions or having a viable path to middle class life and economic prosperity, it's a shytty choice but i'm choosing the latter. The automatic association of police interactions with the black experience in America is an unfortunate byproduct of systemic racism, and should not be the endpoint of any black political movement. Economic and education reform should be the priority. Police interactions will ameliorate as a consequence. Ideally the police won't even be a presence in black life. They're not in any other prosperous minority community.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

No, most people would probably comply with orders in the face of the barrel of a gun, which immigration law warrants.

If millions of people can migrate from the Middle East to Europe millions can migrate from the US back to Mexico. That we waited this long to take action doesn't mean we can't take any anymore, there's no statue of limitation on this shyt.

But in your example you said you would 'stay' or are you changing it now?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The direction of his whole campaign is a disaster which is why I think it's a waste of time to pore over his opinions of a 30 year old case. I knew his DOJ would be a problem when he said police are the most abused people in the US. This is the kind of shyt liberals waste their time pontificating on

So politicians aren't supposed to go after their opponents on legit issues like their stance and direction on law enforcement and race relations? Don't see your point.

 

[King Kreole]

I'm not reading/watching all that, so please just summarize it for me. Thanks.

Well it's a pretty obvious situation. Due to socio-historical factors, African-American employment is disproportionately funnelled into certain sectors. Those sectors are the same ones that the majority of people illegally immigrating to America are trained to work in. So there's an inherent competition taking place. Business are more willing to hire illegal immigrants because they lack the collective bargaining or legal recourses that citizens have. Ergo, you have an African-American unemployment rate that's twice as high as the national average, while 8 million illegal immigrants are working in the country.

Humanely as possible means what? They are here illegally often living with legal citizens and they do not want to leave, there is no humane way to extract all of them.
Murder, theft and rape happen daily and they all have multiple laws against it. Writing a law does not stop human nature. People are going to go where the opportunities are and really no person, people or government can completely stop it. Welcome to the real world.

Yeah, most criminals have friends and families too. It's sad to see a kid grow up without a parent because their dad in jail, but that doesn't mean we just release the dad. Of course illegal immigrants don't want to leave. That's the whole reason they're illegally residing in the country. Criminals don't want to go to jail either. Writing a law doesn't stop human nature, but the existence of criminality doesn't mean we don't enforce the law.

Humanely means you don't go door-to-door like jackbooted Gestapo. But it's not humane to the citizens of the country being economically harmed by the government selectively enforcing the law because it benefits political donors. The idea that there's no other option but to have 12 million people illegally residing in the country sounds like newspeak to me. There are policies you can put in place that make it harder for illegal immigrants to find work, thereby disincentivizing them from coming over illegally in the first place. But why would Hillary advocate for that when the Hispanic community heavily leans Dem, and the Black community being harmed by these policies will never not vote Dem.

 

[acri1]

You should be legit ashamed of yourself if you're black and support Trump.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

So politicians aren't supposed to go after their opponents on legit issues like their stance and direction on law enforcement and race relations? Don't see your point.

Going after Trump on law enforcement and race relations in the only ways liberals know how will only reinforce what his supporters hate about liberals. The disingenuous concern, the language and culture of shame. Aint nobody got time fo dat, plus he's said equally troubling shyt more recently.

Really the only way to convince anyone to ditch Trump is to show how little would be different between his presidency and Clinton's. His supporters love him because they think they will be getting something different..... look at the people in his campaign, they won't.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

But in your example you said you would 'stay' or are you changing it now?

No change. If I break into your house and say "I'm staying and you can't make me leave because thats inhumane", that doesn't mean I'm going to stay with a gun pointed at me. Unfortunately sometimes enforcing laws requires use of force... that doesn't mean killing or injuring anybody

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Going after Trump on law enforcement and race relations in the only ways liberals know how will only reinforce what his supporters hate about liberals. The disingenuous concern, the language and culture of shame. Aint nobody got time fo dat, plus he's said equally troubling shyt more recently.

Really the only way to convince anyone to ditch Trump is to show how little would be different between his presidency and Clinton's. His supporters love him because they think they will be getting something different..... look at the people in his campaign, they won't.

Are you serious? Bruh Hillary is not trying to win over Trump voters. Anybody who is still planning on voting for Trump in October is not changing their mind. She's trying spark turnout and convince the last few undecideds.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Are you serious? Bruh Hillary is not trying to win over Trump voters. Anybody who is still planning on voting for Trump in October is not changing their mind. She's trying spark turnout and convince the last few undecideds.

I'm not saying she was, I'm just saying that's the only way she could.

 

[acri1]

Going after Trump on law enforcement and race relations in the only ways liberals know how will only reinforce what his supporters hate about liberals. The disingenuous concern, the language and culture of shame. Aint nobody got time fo dat, plus he's said equally troubling shyt more recently.

Really the only way to convince anyone to ditch Trump is to show how little would be different between his presidency and Clinton's. His supporters love him because they think they will be getting something different..... look at the people in his campaign, they won't.

That sounds like exactly what liberals do all the time (and why they usually lose), which is to try to appeal to people who will never vote for them anyway rather than defend their own positions and motivate their base.

Fukk trying to get Trump supporters to change their minds, they were going to vote Republican regardless. Last thing anybody needs is for Democrats to try to be more like Republicans. The bigger issue is that Clinton is a lame candidate and has trouble motivating anyone to vote for her despite being much more competent than Trump.

 

[88m3]

I'm not saying she was, I'm just saying that's the only way she could.

The Central Park Five were innocent. Why are you talking about illegal immigrants?

Also so your at the barrel of a gun analogy.... are we skipping a trial? Are we just going to paper bag test everyone?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

That sounds like exactly what liberals do all the time (and why they usually lose), which is to try to appeal to people who will never vote for them anyway rather than defend their own positions and motivate their base.

What base? Who is in the Democrat's base that isn't voting for Hillary next month?

Appeal to people who will never vote for them? Like who? Dems have been shytting on rust belters, bible belters, business owners and white people for decades And they haven't done shyt for most of their "base"; minorities and the poor/middle class are generally worse off than they've been in a long time. Gay marriage? Wow. So fukking what? Labor participation rate is still at historic lows. What are the Democrats doing about that?

Fukk trying to get Trump supporters to change their minds, they were going to vote Republican regardless. Last thing anybody needs is for Democrats to try to be more like Republicans. The bigger issue is that Clinton is a lame candidate and has trouble motivating anyone to vote for her despite being much more competent than Trump.

Competent? After Benghazi? The email shyt? Mass incarceration? All she is "competent" at is self-enrichment and empowerment. Ken Lew, Bernie Madoff, dikk Fuld, they were "competent" too :biggapls:

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

The Central Park Five were innocent. Why are you talking about illegal immigrants?

Also so your at the barrel of a gun analogy.... are we skipping a trial? Are we just going to paper bag test everyone?

Don't ask me, ask @jayshiggs

And stop pretending to care about black issues to gain legitimacy, you look ridiculous.