TRUMP TO END DACA VERY SOON; Wants Congress to replace the policy by March 2018

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1. Giving amnesty to 11 million people would flood the labor markets and would make it even harder for black people because AA are a demographic group with the least education and skills and highest unemployment rate
Faulty logic. Your reason for wanting to deport illegal immigrants is because they have already taken jobs from AA. Further you say it's because they work for cheaper. If they're legal workers and no longer have these advantages then it's hold your own nuts season for workers. :yeshrug:
 

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whats really going on is that you and your ilk (black liberals) are incapable of making a pro immigration argument based on strictly black interests, your whole argument on immigration was laid out by @Robbie3000 in that black people have to support illegal immigration because it will lead to a permanent democratic majority, period, thats your whole argument in a nutshell

I live in NC. Most Hispanics I know are pretty conservative. Most aren't highly political. This is a strawman. My concerns are completely moral. We've already had this discussion.
 

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i have never said anything for or against inter racial relationships, so im not contradicting anything ive said if was going out with a non black person
Saying Umar Johnson's position on IR relationships is valid is endorsing a position. No matter how much you
 

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now point #1 is controversial, ill admit, but its an increasingly popular talking point in the black community and in turn in HL and its a point that i see you guys are trying trying your darndest to eliminate from the conversation in HL, hence this desperation to "clean" HL

but whatever

I probably respond to you and most of the conservative, controversial, free speech gang, opposition set, trumpset, and trollset posters.

You all rehash a lot of threads. My personal views is they should be merged from a mod perspective. From a poster perspective I just pass over them and they usually fall off the first page. If other people want to jump in :yeshrug:.
 

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Abuse of what mod powers? You're mad because a mod doesn't like you? But you haven't been bushed. So what abuse are you experiencing?

How was my quote where you said, "The white supremacist are correct" when you've acknowledged in this very post that you actually feel that way. How is it dishonest?



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do you know how to read? i just explained what the abuse of mod powers was, other posters were bushed and other threads including mines was bushed and you not only cosigned but you are promising to double down on it,

its intelectually dishonest becuase its not being put into context

you are obviously unfit to be a mod
 

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I live in NC. Most Hispanics I know are pretty conservative. Most aren't highly political. This is a strawman. My concerns are completely moral. We've already had this discussion.

yeah you can make a moral argument about illegal immigration, what i said is that you are incapable of making a pro illegal immgration argument that is based strictly on black interests, becuase there isnt none, its a reality that you refuse to acknowledge
 

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I probably respond to you and most of the conservative, controversial, free speech gang, opposition set, trumpset, and trollset posters.

You all rehash a lot of threads. My personal views is they should be merged from a mod perspective. From a poster perspective I just pass over them and they usually fall off the first page. If other people want to jump in :yeshrug:.

yeah whatever, you are not fit to be a mod
 

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you arent calling any bullshyt, you and @The Black Panther are endorsing the abuse of mod powers and are promising to double down the abuse by going against any posters whose political views you dont like, you in particular have shown a high level in intellectual dishonesty by taking a partial quote of mine and putting it in your sig

thats why its important that neither you or @The Black Panther become another mod, we already have a clown as a mod we dont need more

 

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Well, well, well...

Trump Administration Rejects Study Showing Positive Impact of Refugees

Trump Administration Rejects Study Showing Positive Impact of Refugees

WASHINGTON — Trump administration officials, under pressure from the White House to provide a rationale for reducing the number of refugees allowed into the United States next year, rejected a study by the Department of Health and Human Services that found that refugees brought in $63 billion more in government revenues over the past decade than they cost.

The draft report, which was obtained by The New York Times, contradicts a central argument made by advocates of deep cuts in refugee totals as President Trump faces an Oct. 1 deadline to decide on an allowable number. The issue has sparked intense debate within his administration as opponents of the program, led by Mr. Trump’s chief policy adviser, Stephen Miller, assert that continuing to welcome refugees is too costly and raises concerns about terrorism.

Advocates of the program inside and outside the administration say refugees are a major benefit to the United States, paying more in taxes than they consume in public benefits, and filling jobs in service industries that others will not. But research documenting their fiscal upside — prepared for a report mandated by Mr. Trump in a March presidential memorandum implementing his travel ban — never made its way to the White House. Some of those proponents believe the report was suppressed.

The internal study, which was completed in late July but never publicly released, found that refugees “contributed an estimated $269.1 billion in revenues to all levels of government” between 2005 and 2014 through the payment of federal, state and local taxes. “Overall, this report estimated that the net fiscal impact of refugees was positive over the 10-year period, at $63 billion.”

But White House officials said those conclusions were illegitimate and politically motivated, and were disproved by the final report issued by the agency, which asserts that the per-capita cost of a refugee is higher than that of an American.

He has also played a crucial role in the internal discussions over refugee admissions, which are capped by an annual presidential determination that is usually coordinated by the National Security Council and led in large part by the State Department.

This year, officials at the State Department as well as the Department of Defense have argued vociferously that the United States should admit no fewer than the 50,000-refugee cap that Mr. Trump imposed in January as part of the travel ban, but Mr. Miller has advocated for a much lower number — half or less, according to people familiar with the internal talks who described them on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to detail them. The Department of Homeland Security last week proposed a cap of 40,000. The limits being debated would be the lowest in more than three decades.

“We see an administration that’s running a program that it’s intent on destroying,” said Mark Hetfield, the president of HIAS, one of nine refugee resettlement agencies opposing the cut in admissions. “We do have champions in the White House and in the administration, but they’re not being given a voice in this.”

The issue is coming to a head as Mr. Trump attends the United Nations General Assembly this week for the first time as president. The United Nations has repeatedly appealed to nations to resettle 1.2 million refugees fleeing war and persecution from all over the world, and former President Barack Obama used the gathering last year to tout his goal of admitting 110,000 refugees in the fiscal year that ends this month, and to pressure other countries to follow the lead of the United States in embracing more displaced people.

Mr. Trump, by contrast, has highlighted his goal of radically cutting refugee admissions. The president moved swiftly after taking office to crack down on refugees, issuing his original ban against travelers from seven predominantly Muslim countries only a week after taking office.

Facing legal challenges to that order, his administration released a second travel ban two months later against six countries, along with a presidential memorandum in which Mr. Trump called on the secretary of state to consult with the secretaries of Health and Human Services and Homeland Security and his White House budget director and submit within 180 days “a report detailing the estimated long-term costs of the United States Refugee Admissions Program at the federal, state, and local levels, along with recommendations about how to curtail those costs.”

The budget Mr. Trump released in May argued that refugees and other immigrants were a fiscal drain. “Under the refugee program, the federal government brings tens of thousands of entrants into the United States, on top of existing legal immigration flows, who are instantly eligible for time-limited cash benefits and numerous noncash federal benefits, including food assistance through SNAP, medical care and education, as well as a host of state and local benefits,” the document said.

It would be less costly, it argued, if there were fewer refugees, since “each refugee admitted into the United States comes at the expense of helping a potentially greater number out of country.” Inside the administration, those who espouse this view argue that any research purporting to illustrate fiscal benefits of refugees is flawed and reflects only wishful thinking.

As Mr. Trump deliberates privately about the issue, a coalition of human rights and religious groups as well as former national security officials in both parties has formed to encourage him not to allow the refugee cap to plummet.

“From a national security standpoint, while we can’t take an unlimited number of refugees, we need to show our friends and allies that we stand with them and this is a shared burden,” said Michael Chertoff, the secretary of homeland security under George W. Bush.

“They’ve generated a lot of economic value,” Mr. Chertoff added in an interview. “I don’t think refugees are coming to take American jobs.”
 

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i never said all hispanics were racist and i never said anything against interracial relationships, what i said is that mexico and latin america have a 500 year history of enslaving, oppressing and discriminating against africans and they have white supremacist societies and those basic facts have to be taken into account in the immigration debate.

here is some advice, if you are searching a posters history multiple times, make multiple threads about them and have them in your sig, that is a sign that you are obsessed
Your conversations around Mexicans and race are basically the same as saying, I know some cool white folks, but deep down they're all racist.

You try and mask it, but it's always, I know some cool Mexicans, but unless they're indigenous they're all racist.

You're not fooling anyone with the I know a few good Mexicans schtick.

Regarding, me putting you into my profile. You said said some stupid shyt that I don't see any self respecting black man saying.


Also. I'm posting this in a more appropriate thread.

i dont know what you mean by chicano mexicans

the only mexicans i would say are non white supremacist are actual indians/indigenous, as in those that identify as indians and barely speak spanish, but they are a minority, the vast majority of mexicans are white or mestizo and white supremacy is ingrained in their blood and in their culture just like the US, its just a different form of white supremacy due to a different colonial history

there are a lot of individual mexicans that are cool peeps,

but i form my opinion by being around mexicans, going to mexico and reading the history of mexico, mexico is a thoroughly racist white supremacist society that has been engaging in the enslavement, oppression and discrimination against africans and native americans for 500 years, any black person that thinks a horde of illegal immigrants from mexico and latin america is in their interest is ignorant

@Hogan in the Wolfpac and @Robbie3000 yall need to put out this fire quick, these negroes in this thread are getting restless

Mexicao's favorite racist character Memin Pinguin..

Let them know how you don't see race, you believe in open borders and illegals should be allowed to vote and how Mexicans and their racist cartoons are gonna create a permanent majority that will make America great for black people :mjlol:
 

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Your conversations around Mexicans and race are basically the same as saying, I know some cool white folks, but deep down they're all racist.

You try and mask it, but it's always, I know some cool Mexicans, but unless they're indigenous they're all racist.

You're not fooling anyone with the I know a few good Mexicans schtick.

Regarding, me putting you into my profile. You said said some stupid shyt that I don't see any self respecting black man saying.


Also. I'm posting this in a more appropriate thread.

good lord, you are still researching the God :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::deadmanny::deadmanny::deadmanny:

listen buddy, you are not the first poster that has gotten obsessed with the God Emperor, there have been many posters that have gotten upset and discombobulated by the God Emperor's unorthodox ideology and profound statements, then they start attacking the God and making threads about the God, ive seen it all before and it never ends well, for them, in the end ill still be here spreading knowledge and wisdom and they go off to JBO or something

look at this whole incident, the bottom line is that you have gotten exposed as a dishonest weirdo and @tru_m.a.c got exposed as a shytty mod who abuses his powers, this is typical of what happens to posters that throw rocks at the throne

as for the quotes

i dont see anything wrong in any of those quotes

i do know some cool white folks but generally speaking white people are racist and the US is a white supremacist society, same is true for mexicans and mexico, the whole point ive been trying to make is that from the point of view of the african, the united states and latin america are basically the same in terms of racism and oppression

the discussion in HL about immigration is pretty tame compared to TLR, i was just wondering why yall arent over there preaching the gospel that you are preaching here

speaking of statements, you are on record saying that you dont care about the fate of black high school dropouts, so is that something that a self respecting black man would say? especially in the context of immigration
 
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white supremacists are racist so obviously they are against any non white immigration

but on the issue of the need to stop illegal immigration they are correct and the recent proposal by suspected white supremacist to make immigration skill based is also correct because it would eliminate family based migration which is an actual white supremacist policy and give advantages to the skilled and english speakers (which is good cuz the majority of black countries in the Caribbean and africa speak english)

so its unfortunate but the suspected white supremacists in the republican party have a more pro black (relatively speaking) polices than the suspected white supremacists in the democratic party

im speaking strictly in terms of actual policy proposals on immgration

You obviously don't know what the fukk you are talking about. Most Africans with exception of refugees and Visa lottery winners, come to this country via student visa. By definition, they are unskilled. These are the people you and your clan buddys want to keep out. The strivers.

Skill based immigration policy is a clever way to reduce immigration because most skilled people have choices and like most human beings given a choice, are going to choose to stay in their native land. Most of my family members who chose to come here were students and/or unskilled. The skilled family members decided to stay home where they are leading comfortable lives.
 

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You obviously don't know what the fukk you are talking about. Most Africans with exception of refugees and Visa lottery winners, come to this country via student visa. By definition, they are unskilled. These are the people you and your clan buddys want to keep out. The strivers.

Skill based immigration policy is a clever way to reduce immigration because most skilled people have choices and like most human beings given a choice, are going to choose to stay in their native land. Most of my family members who chose to come here were students and/or unskilled. The skilled family members decided to stay home where they are leading comfortable lives.

Do you even read what you wrote? It's completely ridiculous, The notion that skilled people in Africa that speak English are not going to try to come under a skill based system is an obvious lie

A skill based system with English preference would give a huge boost to African and Caribbean migration, simple logic would tell you that the biggest reason why skilled Africans and caribbeans don't immigrate is because they can't

Under the current system only those with connections to the us and random lottery winners can come, under a skilled based system it would open it up to the entire continent and basically all the black Caribbean islands
 
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