Trump to terminate birthright citizenship

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Birthright citizenship Has its roots in slavery.

If taken away it will effect African Americans. However let's not pretend illegal immigrants of all backgrounds have not abused this law.

Nah.

It was created for AADOS. It will not affect AADOS - who were brought or came here (and not by choice) since the 1600's and before the US Constitution, etc was created. It was created after Emancipation - we and Native Americans - are the only true "natives" -- and who are birthright.

Throughout the history of the United States, the fundamental legal principle governing citizenship has been that birth within the United States grants U.S. citizenship; although enslaved persons and children of enslaved mothers, under the principle of partus sequitur ventrem, were excluded.[27] The United States did not grant citizenship after the American Civil War to all former slaves until the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which was subsequently confirmed by the Fourteenth Amendment. American Indian tribal members are not covered specifically by the constitutional guarantee. Those living in tribes on reservations were generally not considered citizens until passage of the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, although by that time nearly two-thirds of American Indians were already citizens.

The Civil Rights Act of 1866, 14 Stat. 27–30, enacted April 9, 1866, was the first United States federal law to define citizenship and affirm that all citizens are equally protected by the law.[1] It was mainly intended, in the wake of the American Civil War, to protect the civil rights of persons of African descent born in or brought to the United States.[2]
This was Vetoed. But...

In any event, there is currently no consensus that the language of the Civil Rights Act of 1866 actually purports to confer any legal benefits upon white citizens.[16] Representative Samuel Shellabarger said that it did not.[17][18]

After enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1866 by overriding a presidential veto,[19][20] some members of Congress supported the Fourteenth Amendment in order to eliminate doubts about the constitutionality of the Civil Rights Act of 1866,[21] or to ensure that no subsequent Congress could later repeal or alter the main provisions of that Act.[22] Thus, the Citizenship Clause in the Fourteenth Amendment parallels citizenship language in the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and likewise the Equal Protection Clause parallels nondiscrimination language in the 1866 Act; the extent to which other clauses in the Fourteenth Amendment may have incorporated elements of the Civil Rights Act of 1866 is a matter of continuing debate.[23]

Civil Rights Act of 1866 - Wikipedia
In addition, our citizenship can never be revoked - as we nor our parents/enslaved ancestors were/are "not subject to any foreign power" -- and do not fall under the categories below. If anyone should worry about this - is should be the those people - of all races/ethnicities who parents/ancestors came after 1866. But, we already know they only want illegal immigrants or those who abuse immigration. We do not fall or will never fall in those categories.

Loss of citizenship
The Fourteenth Amendment does not provide any procedure for revocation of United States citizenship. Under the Supreme Court precedent of Afroyim v. Rusk, loss of 14th-Amendment-based U.S. citizenship is possible only under the following circumstances:[30]

  • Fraud in the naturalization process. Technically this is not loss of citizenship, but rather a voiding of the purported naturalization and a declaration that the immigrant never was a U.S. citizen.
  • Voluntary relinquishment of citizenship. This may be accomplished either through renunciation procedures specially established by the State Department or through other actions (e.g., treason) which demonstrate an intention to give up U.S. citizenship.[31] Such an act of expatriation must be accompanied by an intent to terminate United States citizenship.[32]
For jus sanguinis U.S. citizenship, i.e., citizenship for the children born abroad of U.S. citizen parents, which is established only by congressional statute and not the U.S. Constitution (including its amendments), these restrictions do not apply (e.g., cf. Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971)).

 
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Same, I get the premise, but the execution is disingenuous.

The intention is to deliberately curtail and marginalize others, specially hispanics in this case.
Blacks shouldn't be too complacent and passive when shyt like this pops up because people hate us just as much...
Misery loves company
I have no qualms about admitting that I want non AAs to feel pain, I want them to suffer, I want them to feel oppressed, attacked. I want their families ripped apart, I want them targeted by law enforcement. I want them to get discriminated against and to not be able to function in society without feeling hated. Karma for all the fukking bullshyt that’s come out of their mouths the last several decades. Karma for all the white ass these fakkits kiss. Fukk all of them.

If trump fukks us over too so be it because as I said misery loves company and AAs get fukked regardless whether it’s under the watch of Clinton, Bush, Obama or Trump
 

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how so? african americans' citizenship is completely established

Exactly.

They say this to - I guess scare us. But, even White people know - we ain't going nowhere -- and are more "American" than any of them whose ancestors immigrated here.

If it's one thing AADOS don't have to worry about - is losing our citizenship or being expelled from America. The country our ancestors were enslaved in and built.
 

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Also a law is a piece of paper, “protected by the constitution” doesn’t mean shyt when a group of mad men are running things.

The only protection anybody has is their armory/weaponry/tech/etc.

This is a wake up call to what power and protection really are.
 

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Posters on here continue to contradict themselves constantly .

You got coli militants screaming about the US and it’s white supremacy and how Black Americans should be battling it no matter what, yet those same militants talk about how we should be upset that the constitution is being destroyed . The constitution was written by white supremacist and they use that same constitution to practice white supremacy on you.

They way I see is fukk it all. Let trump destroy the constitution . We aren’t going back to slavery. That’s not going to happen, so let the Cacs weaken themselves , we need to build and worry about our own. fukk the Mexican refugee, fukk an African immigrant. Fuk them all. Black Americans have our own struggle and identitity we need to continue to develop. Instead we have been co -opted into everyone else problems since the revolutionary war . If they aren’t American citizens fukk them. There babies are not anybody’s concern other than the parents and their countries .
 
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Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.”

I dont understand the indifference.

I am not in favor of illegal immigration.

But babies dont choose where they are born. And starting life without citizenship in a nation founded on immigration, because youre an immigrant, is fukking shameful.


I'm sure MLK meant for that quote to only apply to problems not including adultery....still a great quote, the levels of irony always make me laugh every time.


However, one could very easily argue that; having an anchor baby has always been a problem enacted by illegal immigrants. Again, birth tourism has always been a problem, because it addresses an even smaller/personal issue. It abuses the 14th amendment, and further abuses you, the tax payer. Again, its a lot to unpack on the coli wherein most people just want to troll or play any old card for a like or a gif. Ultimately, we are caught in an inescapable network of non-mutual scapegoating....
 

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I'm sure MLK meant for that quote to only apply to problems not including adultery....still a great quote, the levels of irony always make me laugh every time.


However, one could very easily argue that; having an anchor baby has always been a problem enacted by illegal immigrants. Again, birth tourism has always been a problem, because it addresses an even smaller/personal issue. It abuses the 14th amendment, and further abuses you, the tax payer. Again, its a lot to unpack on the coli wherein most people just want to troll or play any old card for a like or a gif. Ultimately, we are caught in an inescapable network of non-mutual scapegoating....


Cacs continue to expose themselves

This stupid piece of shyt right here probably thinks that george wallace and mlk are both the same because having sex with women besides your wife is somewhat comparable to violating human rights

Go to hell fakkit. I wish i could send you there myself
 

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Also this is purely political talk.

If they reallly gettin rid of anybody they’d already been gone.

Dude needs people to vote again like they did last time. Some of those seats are in danger and they need a strong turnout these midterms.

This is purely a move to ignite voter passion from his supporters to not get complacent.

This is no different than “build a wall” talk.
 
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The same Supreme Court that just welcomed a white supremacist rapist within its ranks? :mjlol:
Who says it will even get to the supreme Court .it will be struck down by a lower federal court and the supreme Court will probably not even entertain any appeals .
 
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