Trump turns fire on hedge fund managers

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Trump turns fire on hedge fund managers
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Donald Trump on Sunday turned his fire on hedge fund managers, calling them “paper-pushers” who do not pay their fair share of tax, in the latest attack of his bombastic presidential campaign.

The billionaire’s comments add a new dimension to his unorthodox campaign because support for ending the so-called “carried interest loophole” stretches across party lines, encompassing conservatives as well as Democrats.

President Barack Obama has called for the tax break to be eliminated as has Hillary Clinton, front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, who has said it is wrong that hedge fund managers “pay lower taxes than nurses”.

Vowing to reform the tax law, Mr Trump said on Sunday that he would target hedge fund managers. “They are energetic. They are very smart. But a lot of them — they are paper-pushers. They make a fortune. They pay no tax. It’s ridiculous, OK?” he told CBS television.

“The hedge fund guys didn’t build this country. These are guys that shift paper around and they get lucky.”

While his campaign has been light on policy details, Mr Trump has captivated the US with his penchant for throwing barbs at an eclectic mix of targets ranging from Mexican immigrants to a Fox news anchor.

Mitt Romney, a former private equity executive who was never fully embraced by many conservatives, was hurt in the 2012 presidential campaign by Mr Obama’s success in launching attacks on his low tax rate.

The top tax rate on capital gains is 20 per cent, significantly lower than the top rate of more than 40 per cent on regular income.

In an interview during the 2012 campaign, Mr Romney made the argument — also heard from Wall Street’s allies — that it is fair for wealthy individuals to pay a low capital gains tax because it encourages investment.

In the Republican establishment, views on carried interest are varied.

Last year Dave Camp, then the top Republican tax writer in the House of Representatives, proposed to change the treatment of carried interest in a sweeping plan for tax reform that did not gain traction.

The Republican majority leader in the House at the time was Eric Cantor, who was close to Wall Street and had defended the status quo. Mr Cantor left the House after a stunning defeat to a candidate affiliated with Tea Party conservatives in an intraparty election last June.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/cc67209e-49d2-11e5-9b5d-89a026fda5c9.html#axzz3jhYDqbZ7

Mr Trump said he would not be deterred by his relationships with hedge fund managers. “Some of them are friends of mine, some of them I couldn’t care less about,” he said. “It’s the wrong thing. These guys are getting away with murder. I want to lower the rates for the middle class.”

The Managed Funds Association, a trade group for hedge funds in Washington, declined to comment.

Mr Trump, who leads the race for the Republican presidential nomination, indicated he would close a loophole that lets hedge fund and private equity managers pay taxes at a lower capital gains rate instead of as income tax.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/cc67209e-49d2-11e5-9b5d-89a026fda5c9.html#axzz3jhYDqbZ7




saw this on an alternative website

How the vultures of hedge funds 'maul' the indebted states

Greece, Puerto Rico and Detroit have something else in common apart from the default

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2015/08/how-vultures-of-hedge-funds-maul.html
 
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Read a piece today on Trump's wealth and stature giving him the ability to say popular things; as opposed to to the common characterization of his wealth giving him the ability to say unpopular things.

Trump doesn't need donor money, so he can say hints that are broadly popular with the GOP base(and people in general) but not with the donor class. The GOP base(along with organized labor and the majority of Americans) dislike legal immigration and hate illegal immigration. The donor class for both parties loves immigration both legal and undocumented. The GOP base(and most everyone) likes the idea of wealthy people paying much more in taxes. The GOP donor class and intelligentsia hates the idea of higher rates on the wealthy. The GOP base likes the idea of a healthcare system that takes care of the destitute. The donor class hates the implication of such a program.

It's no coincidence that guys like Santorum and Huckabee who are the closest to trump ideologically, really struggle to raise funds. If he hadn't been a pop culture clown for 30 years now I would be starting to think he could actually win the nomination. Trump isn't pulling the GOP to the right, he's pulling it towards the people.
 

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Trump Puts The 'Hedge Fund Guys' On Notice

By David Knowles



The billionaire Republican front-runner assailed hedge fund managers in a Sunday appearance on CBS' Face the Nation in which he portrayed himself as a champion of the middle class.

"They're paying nothing. And it's ridiculous," Trump said of those who make a living running hedge funds. "I want to save the middle class. You know, the middle class—the hedge fund guys didn't build this country. These are guys that shift paper around and they get lucky. And, by the way, when the market collapses, like it is now, the market is going down, they're losing a fortune."

“The hedge fund guys are getting away with murder.”
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Sanders, the leading challenger to Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, has routinely gone after hedge fund managers during his populist campaign.

For Trump, who often boasts of his own wealth and business dealings, taxation of hedge fund earnings has not been a central campaign focus. Still, on Sunday, Trump took aim at those who profited from the investment strategy.

"Half of them, look, they're energetic, they're very smart, but a lot of them, it's like they're paper pushers. They make a fortune, they pay no tax. It's ridiculous, OK? This—and some of them are friends of mine. Some of them, I couldn't care less about. It's the wrong thing," Trump said. "The hedge fund guys are getting away with murder. They're making a tremendous amount of money. They have to pay taxes. I want to lower the rates for the middle class. The middle class is the one, they're getting absolutely destroyed. This country doesn't have—won't have a middle class very soon."

Clinton has also woven an attack on hedge fund managers into her stump speeches.

“Something is wrong when CEOs earn more than 300 times than what the typical American worker earns and when hedge fund managers pay a lower tax rate than truck drivers or nurses,” Clinton said in May while campaigning in Cedar Falls, Iowa.

The rhetorical similarities between Trump and his would-be Democratic rivals have given Jeb Bush an attack opening.

“He was a Democrat longer than he was a Republican,” Bush said last week during a town hall in New Hampshire. “He's given more money to Democrats than he has to Republicans.”

On Sunday, Trump countered those who question his Republican bona fides by invoking Ronald Reagan.

"Well, you know, you could say that about Ronald Reagan, because Ronald Reagan was a Democrat with a very, very liberal lean. And he actually became Republican who was fairly conservative. I wouldn't say he was the most conservative, but fairly," Trump said. "And he talked about he evolved as he got older. And I have also. And don't forget, I—when you label me—I was never a politician.

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Yea he was def speaking for the people when he called Mexicans criminals and rapists :mjlol:

Well considering that illegal immigration and legal immigration are both widely unpopular with the whole electorate and are reviled in the GOP base, I'd say that's a reasonable statement.

Popular opinions aren't always right or moral.
 

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Well considering that illegal immigration and legal immigration are both widely unpopular with the whole electorate and are reviled in the GOP base, I'd say that's a reasonable statement.

Popular opinions aren't always right or moral.

Nah.

Understanding how Americans feel about immigration, in 7 easy charts

Americans are concerned about illegal immigration and want more secure borders, but it's a dwindling concern. Trump is just fearmongering to play up the xenophobes.
 

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Nah.

Understanding how Americans feel about immigration, in 7 easy charts

Americans are concerned about illegal immigration and want more secure borders, but it's a dwindling concern. Trump is just fearmongering to play up the xenophobes.

50% of the population is a broad base of antipathy towards illegal immigration.

And that's exactly what he's doing. Who told you that there's not a signifigant amount of xenophobes in America?

Immigration - ~45% of the population thinks immigration hurts more than it helps.

Americans are pretty forgiving about those already here overall, only about 30-35% support mass deportation, but opposition to continuing immigration is deep.
 

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Read a piece today on Trump's wealth and stature giving him the ability to say popular things; as opposed to to the common characterization of his wealth giving him the ability to say unpopular things.

Trump doesn't need donor money, so he can say hints that are broadly popular with the GOP base(and people in general) but not with the donor class. The GOP base(along with organized labor and the majority of Americans) dislike legal immigration and hate illegal immigration. The donor class for both parties loves immigration both legal and undocumented. The GOP base(and most everyone) likes the idea of wealthy people paying much more in taxes. The GOP donor class and intelligentsia hates the idea of higher rates on the wealthy. The GOP base likes the idea of a healthcare system that takes care of the destitute. The donor class hates the implication of such a program.

It's no coincidence that guys like Santorum and Huckabee who are the closest to trump ideologically, really struggle to raise funds. If he hadn't been a pop culture clown for 30 years now I would be starting to think he could actually win the nomination. Trump isn't pulling the GOP to the right, he's pulling it towards the people.
You needed an article to figure this out? :what:
 
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