Trump Wants To Give Out Stimulus Checks Again

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Again, the auto industry bailouts began under Bush, and carried on by Obama because there was some guarentees that the United States would get return on investment... WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED, AND YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE.
The Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry was an ad hoc group of United States cabinet-level and other officials that was formed by President Barack Obama to deal with the financial bailout of automakers Chrysler and General Motors.
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I don't care about the spin. Obama agreed with bailing out big business/big banks and then bailed out Chrysler and GM himself when he got into office. Why are you okay with giving big business money when they "need help" but not the tax paying citizen?

That's NOT what happened with the PPP loans. And you act like it was the everyday Joe Schmoe who made out from that program. Again, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of more than 500 Billion dollars was given to large corporations, AND NEVER PAID BACK. The people doing the finessing in 2020 are the same ones doing the finessing now in DOGE, and morons like you think "oh sweet, I'll get "my money" back". That's not how it works. The haves will always fukk over the have-nots, and it's because of the influence the wealthy and powerful have over lawmakers.

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The "everyday Joe Schmoe" was all over the internet flexing PPP money or flexing things bought with PPP money. What are you even talking about? And paid back to who? The taxpayers the money actually came from or the gov't? You do know some of those big banks/businesses that received bailout money in 08 used a lot of it to give themselves bonuses while laying off employees at the same time? Who convinced you that aid going to big business is okay but aid going to the average 9-5 citizen who you say gets "fukked over" by "the haves" is off limits. Make it make sense...

And also isn't it the "haves" that lobby the lawmakers into the positions they hold? Typing that bolded sentence and still twerking it up for political parties? Couldn't be me....
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I'm not going to delve too deeply into military spending, but the overwhelming majority of aid we've given those countries were in the form of arms and equipment we've phased out of use for our own purposes. You're either purposefully being misleading or uninformed if you think we're just giving away cash to that magnitude, so stop changing topics, or educate yourself.

What exactly do you think will happen to the markets if everyone all of a sudden got a heafty lump sum of money?

Okaying funding being given to big corporations/banks when they fail (because of their own actions) over citizens, who you already admit get "fukked over" by the "haves," is a Stockholm syndrome level of political simpery.
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You're basically saying that giving tax paying citizens (their own) money (back) when in need = bad/not okay but giving big banks/corporations (taxpayer)money when they're in need based on decisions they made = good/okay. Sounds just like the Reaganomic argument of giving the wealthy tax cuts and hoping they use the extras in a way that "trickles (it) down" to the rest of society. Ignoring the obvious likelihood of them hoarding(saving) the extras for themselves/families. Give money/bail out citizens directly? No go. Give money/bail out corporations directly? A-okay. Help the average citizen by giving them tax breaks/cuts? Nah. Help the average citizen by giving the wealthy tax cuts and crossing your fingers on the hope they do the right thing? Makes the most sense. This is the society you defend lol..

The people that lobby politicians into office are wealthy. The people that run the corporations that own the media outlets that give the public a look at potential political candidates and their campaigns(or don't depending on the candidate) are wealthy. The people that are involved with the privately operated federal reserve that gets to print money (that's backed by nothing tangible) whenever they decide to are guess what? Wealthy. If you're simply looking at how society operates thru a republican vs democrat or right vs left or even a white vs black type of lens then you'll never see the bigger picture. And the "better world" or "best available option" you think you're voting your way into, isn't gonna be anything "good"...
 

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Emotional arguments. So you're ok with major companies leaving the US? Who will employ you then? How much should people pay in taxes over 40% or over 50%? At what point does it become theft or slavery? Does wealth and innovation come from government or private sector? Do people who put in more work than you owe you something? If taxing the rich more helps the poor, why do high-tax states like California and New York have such massive wealth gaps and homelessness problems? Why do socialist and high-tax countries struggle with economic growth, while lower-tax, pro-business countries attract investment and job creation? Do you think you can work 40 hours a week and build a thriving business or get into the higher tax brackets? Have you ever ran a company? Before you can afford to even hire an employee you have to do every function of the business to bring in money. Most people I know that run small businesses are working at least 60.
What you are posting is the definition of emotional arguments and making generalizations on how to run a business.

Major corporations don’t operate on that nationalistic agenda that you keep spewing. They operate in the global economy. For instance, Apple imports parts from all over the world just to make a single iPhone. Where is Apple located?
 

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My post was in reference to you saying broke boys don’t care about tax rates, DOGE and all this gutting of government is a distraction so that they can justify more tax cuts for billionaires.

I’d rather the government squander money than for someone like Elon to accrue even more money passively that he can use to buy more elections
The Government has been giving Elon money for over a decade. Both Republican and Democrat alike. What makes you think their gonna stop now? I don't care where the money comes from I'll take it.

How Elon Musk’s Companies Benefited More from Democratic Administrations than Republican Ones
 

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Shills would accept the DOGE Dividend money. But just don't wouldn't want any non-affiliated voters to get it. Because that might cost Democrats votes.
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Most of them are broke and that's why they don't care about tax rates.
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:mjlol:Thats my problem with American politics. Instead of accepting good as its offered, things are declared good or bad depending on which political party is the one offering it. Romney care is seen as either good or bad until it became Obamacare, then the opinion gets flipped.

At that point its about empowering a specific political party no matter what over look at what's actually in the best interest of citizens:francis:
 

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:mjlol:Thats my problem with American politics. Instead of accepting good as its offered, things are declared good or bad depending on which political party is the one offering it. Romney care is seen as either good or bad until it became Obamacare, then the opinion gets flipped.

At that point its about empowering a specific political party no matter what over look at what's actually in the best interest of citizens:francis:
Yep. I don't care who gives me the money. Because I'm not voting for either of these corrupt political parties anyway.

But I'm convinced you can't trust nor reform Government when it comes to spending. The more money you give them the more they waste it.

While telling everyone the money is going to benefit the greater good. They giving that shyt to Billionaires, illegal aliens and other foreign governments.

When the US finally defaults on its massive debts. I don't want to be anywhere near this country.
 

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What you are posting is the definition of emotional arguments and making generalizations on how to run a business.

Major corporations don’t operate on that nationalistic agenda that you keep spewing. They operate in the global economy. For instance, Apple imports parts from all over the world just to make a single iPhone. Where is Apple located?
Apple is headquartered in Cali. Where did Chevron, Oracle, Tesla, Hewlett Packard Enterprise move? Nice diversion. Yeah u can't stay on topic and answer my questions good day.
 
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Apple is headquartered in Cali. Where did Chevron, Oracle, Tesla, Hewlett Packard Enterprise move? Nice diversion. Yeah u can't stay on topic and answer my questions good day
Those “questions” are actually your ideological beliefs which you are entitled to:hubie:
 

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That money goes right back into the vortex of consumer goods,debt and fraud.
 
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