Trump wants to prosecute minors as adults starting at age 14 in Washington DC “If this continues,I’m goin to exert my powers and FEDERALIZE this city”

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prosecuting minors is not effective at all.

To me it seems like you are creating professional criminals. You get them numb to the prison lifestyle early, but they are too young not to be away forever. So they get out in their 30s and 40s as seasoned thugs, and we supposed to be safer?
If they aren't going away forever then the focus should be on rehabilitation. They going be in society again at some point.

Let's not at like reducing crime is really the point of this though. No point addressing bad faith arguments.

It's just a chance for Trump to distract from the Epstein stuff and hype up his base by throwing some black people in prison. That's it.
 

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nikka what? You want to remove parents from the equation?
I want to focus on the equations variables. (ie the things in the equation when can change)

(Kid - X) + Bad Parents = Y


If we want (Y) to equal "functioning adult." We have to put the right variable into X. The Bad Parent part of the equation is unfortunately permanent.

If you figure out a way to correct bad parents that would be great. But unfortunately it is not against the law to not help your kids with homework, or give them good parenting advice. We can't arrest bad parents or penalize them for being bad parents. Except in extreme cases of abuse. And even in those cases, we don't have a very good alternative. Group homes don't get the best reviews either.
 

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But you can clearly have incarnation with rehabilitation. That's what i'm talking about.
Just locking people up does nothing. Saying you want to lock them earlier doesn't tell me anything and doesn't make us any safer in the long run.
It kinda does. Crime exploded on the catch and release and de-criminalizing of some offenses, Being thrown in the men's prison might not be the best answer, but catch and release ain't doing shiit. Juvenile jails are overcrowded, somebody getting out undeservedly
 

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I want to focus on the equations variables. (ie the things in the equation when can change)

(Kid - X) + Bad Parents = Y


If we want (Y) to equal "functioning adult." We have to put the right variable into X. The Bad Parent part of the equation is unfortunately permanent.

If you figure out a way to correct bad parents that would be great. But unfortunately it is not against the law to not help your kids with homework, or give them good parenting advice. We can't arrest bad parents or penalize them for being bad parents. Except in extreme cases of abuse. And even in those cases, we don't have a very good alternative. Group homes don't get the best reviews either.
Every criminal doesn't have "bad parents".
 

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It kinda does. Crime exploded on the catch and release and de-criminalizing of some offenses, Being thrown in the men's prison might not be the best answer, but catch and release ain't doing shiit. Juvenile jails are overcrowded, somebody getting out undeservedly
Neither one of those options appears to be effective. Should require that the kids complete their education or serve in the military or something in addition to any incarceration. I'm not advocating for decriminalizing anything. Only taking more steps toward rehabilitation.
At the end of the day its all catch and release even if they spend time in mens prison before eventually getting out.
 

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Every criminal doesn't have "bad parents".
agreed. I didn't say that though. Was just responded to a person who was blaming the parents.

My point is "blaming the parents" is not a really an action. Its just a vague statement. Going around blaming the parents is the same as going around doing nothing.
 

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This is a tough situation cause on one hand, these teens need to understand you do the time you do the crime but on another hand is obvious nefarious attentions behind this especially with supposedly some doge dude being beat up or whatever the fukk they talking about and all the racist dog whistles included with it

And environment is the most important thing, how does dc have a community of out of control youth, that should be the main city where everyone is on point especially the black and poor folks

I don’t like this idea that prison is the only answer, and it’s so called black people on this forum co-signing the bullshyt, I still don’t understand how is it a running joke to point out after school programs and community centers is needed
 

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I was warning parents and black youth this was the plan in his last term,and emplored folks to buy prison stocks that later skyrocketed. At this point myself and many others are tired of talking#RenderUntoCeasar. Some of these black folk and their black children have been g.m.o'd. They are the intellectual property of Babylon now so let Babylon have them. Now is the time to seperate the bad apples from the bunch.


I know for a fact kids do alot of these crimes knowing nothing will happen. Alot of times at the encouragment of adults who know so to.
They are calling jail "college" knowing they will only do a few years while earning stripes for a whole murder:gucci:


Many of your people have been g.m.o'd and are no longer your people. Let the dead bury the dead,pour your energy into helping,saving,encouraging our best and brightest. Too much time and energy protecting our young criminals who dont want to be saved. Meanwhile our best and brightest are falling victim,being lured and falling to the wayside:respect:
Improving the environment is how you stop ours from falling into that trap
 
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