Trump's DHS proposes ban on most of Africa from getting a 4 year degree in America

[Voice of Reason]

Have you read this book?

Yes, I have. Have you?

 

[get these nets]

Yes, I have. Have you?

Read half of it, there's a current thread about the book in the Root.

I asked because I'd like to know how Ms. Wilkerson's book relates to the comments the other poster wrote.

He appears to be scapegoating African immigrants.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Read half of it, there's a current thread about the book in the Root.

I asked because I'd like to know how Ms. Wilkerson's book relates to the comments the other poster wrote.

He appears to be scapegoating African immigrants.

It's revenant because the author details how immigrants go out of their way to not be perceived as "black" in SOME cases.

 

[Captain Crunch]

We all nikkas in this country dammit if you're black.

These crackers don't know the difference between an African American and African in the West Indian they hate us equally.

Y'all need to stop acting like we brand new or look down on yall we're not part of the struggle or we don't support you cause I sure as hell do not support these fukking racist ofays.

That's not true, and there have been a number of non-ADOS who debunk that.

Spoiler

Kofi Annan, the Ghanaian former UN secretary general, while a student in the United States, visited the South at the height of the civil rights movement. He was in need of a haircut, but this being the Jim Crow era, a white barber told him "I do not cut ****** hair." To which Kofi Annan promptly replied "I am not a ******, I am an African." The anecdote, as narrated in Stanley Meisler's Kofi Annan: A Man of Peace in a World of War, ends with him getting his hair cut.

Spoiler

For instance, take the "African foreigner privilege". In Ohio, thirsting for a beer I walk into the closest bar. Silence. I order a beer and the white guy next to me says, "Where are you from? Where is your accent from?" I say, "Kenya." Relief, followed by the words "Welcome to America. I thought you were one of them."

African in America or African American? | Mukoma Wa Ngugi

Spoiler

Mosaku remembers a time she was driving with her husband and they were pulled over by the police. He told her to make sure they heard her British accent. “You can feel the difference and the shift because, for some reason, Americans are enamored with our accent and think we're super intelligent and refined,”

Lovecraft Country's Wunmi Mosaku on Ruby's Choice

Spoiler

Discussion suggests that accepting second-generation African immigrants may cover for prejudice by providing a socially desirable alternative to accepting Black American native applicants.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01973533.2017.1390751?journalCode=hbas20

 

[Peter Parker]

That's not true, and there have been a number of non-ADOS who debunk that.


African in America or African American? | Mukoma Wa Ngugi


Lovecraft Country's Wunmi Mosaku on Ruby's Choice

Spoiler

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01973533.2017.1390751?journalCode=hbas20

 

[Unknown Poster]

That's not true, and there have been a number of non-ADOS who debunk that.


African in America or African American? | Mukoma Wa Ngugi


Lovecraft Country's Wunmi Mosaku on Ruby's Choice

Spoiler

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01973533.2017.1390751?journalCode=hbas20

My point still stands and I'm not going back and forth with you.

 

[HarlemHottie]

My ADOS fam, this ain't our problem

Nope.

If don't nobody care about ados being worth $0, i damn sure don't have the free bandwidth to care about their student visas.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Some of you got more smoke for Africans than these Trump supporting crackers.


fukk a white supremacist Trump supporter and fukk all the disgusting crackers in that family.


I want to beat Trump supporters senseless.
Not even lying when I say that I want to beat them into a fukking coma. fukk trump.

 

[HarlemHottie]

My point still stands and I'm not going back and forth with you.

Uh, no, your point was knocked down and dogwalked.

 

[El Bombi]

Theres some evidence Trump has 20% of black males in states like Texas.

Link?

 

[get these nets]

It's revenant because the author details how immigrants go out of their way to not be perceived as "black" in SOME cases.

She devotes a tiny amount of time discussing African/Caribbean immigrants in the book.

She does point out instances of what you wrote, but she ends the passage about Black immigrants with this paragraph.


Try as it may to entice newcomers to take sides in upholding the hierarchy, the caste system fails to reach some people. Some children of immigrants from the Caribbean, people like Eric Holder, Colin Powell, Malcolm X, Shirley Chisholm, and Stokely Carmichael, among many others, have shared in the common plight of those in the lowest caste, become advocates for justice, and transcended these divisions for the greater good.

That poster's views aren't cosigned or supported by Ms. Wilkerson's book.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

I am questioning the motives behind such an proposal. Just looking at the numbers and saying "oh, this policy makes sense" misses the point.

I never said the policy makes sense... Because I don't think it makes sense to punish the majority of immigrants for the actions of a few.
Is there a racial element behind it? Wouldn't surprise me.

I just explained what was the rationale presented and how the map was constructed to another poster breh. Idk why or what you want to argue with me.

 

[The D-List Vet]

Notice how South Africa isn't on the list

White south Africans need to be out of there blows my mind that the small % of white people over there living it good

 

[HarlemHottie]

She does point out instances of what you wrote, but she ends the passage about Black immigrants with this paragraph.


Try as it may to entice newcomers to take sides in upholding the hierarchy, the caste system fails to reach some people. Some children of immigrants from the Caribbean, people like Eric Holder, Colin Powell, Malcolm X, Shirley Chisholm, and Stokely Carmichael, among many others, have shared in the common plight of those in the lowest caste, become advocates for justice, and transcended these divisions for the greater good.

It's intellectually disingenuous, and a misuse of the good Ms. Wilkerson's work, to use examples of historical black immigrants to speak on contemporary black immigrants, as racial conditions in this country have changed.

 

[frush11]

I done fukked wit a lot of non ados bytches, I aint got a reason to make up how SOME (I was corrected) non ados, a significant portion, look down upon ados like they “not black” or that we “lazy”


And I aint the only one thats ados that says that in here


Now if that fact makes folks in here mad, thats too damn bad

(I’ll throw this out there, most non ados blacks I come across are really intelligent folk.. I aint a hater, but I damn sure will call shyt out as it is)

So you just making up stuff to fit in, I see.