#TrumpSet/ConspiracySet LAWST: 13 Russian Officials Identified as Part of DNC Hack UPDATE: 12 More
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Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
*awaits juelzing*
Waiting for @Ozymandias to come in with
I already knew Guccifer 2.0 was Russian...tee hee [insert mis-applied Sun Tzu quote]
At this point you're wantonly ignorant if you don't believe that at best, the RNC directly benefited from a foreign power's attempts at espionage.
And no you idiots, "America does that shyt too
" is not a valid retort.
And no you idiots, "America does that shyt too
" is not a valid retort.
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
A word? Why not?And no you idiots, "America does that shyt too
I remember this line of the debate. shyt I’m able to download at 35MB/s (over 300mbit) so 181 is not far fetched at all. That’s also assuming there wasn’t an intermediate proxy server between the DNC server and the hacker..which in all likelihood there are multiple..
A word? Why not?
Because one does not negate the other.
It's possible to condemn the US for doing it and be outraged that the Russians did it to us at the same time.
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Us? Just sounds like some, "Master we sick?!" shyt to me Black Panther.
I got no love for a government that has done and is still doing a lot to keep POC down and grant us no justice. They deserve every bad thing coming to them.
A subversion of the US democratic process is not a direct 1:1 correlation. It's an undermining of the fundamental aspect of the process which is the will of the people being made in fair, educated judgement not force fed foreign propaganda to sway a vote.Us? Just sounds like some, "Master we sick?!" shyt to me Black Panther.
I got no love for a government that has done and is still doing a lot to keep POC down and grant us no justice. They deserve every bad thing coming to them.
This isn't about the moral equivalence of this to itself, it's about the nature of the act itself being illegal and beyond the scope of how our process works. A whatabout response still doesn't mitigate the complicity of the Trump administration and election team. It's like using Iran/Contra to say that the USSR wasn't also committing wanton and violent civil uprisings using it's own means.
One does not begrudge the other to exist and one does not delegitimize the act by existing. This isn't and has never been about America's moral center, it's about the moral and ethical conflict of interest that renders this current government to have come to power through inappropriate and unacceptable means.
We can both acknowledge and accept that the US is a white supremacist lead country and still also grant credence to the fact that a foreign power interfering in our election with complicity from the party it interfered for is a valid reason to demand they be brought to task.
Think of it this way, one child steals candy, knowing that the child that caught them and told you also steals candy when they think you aren't looking.
That doesn't mean you don't punish the kid you caught then and there stealing candy.
That doesn't mean you don't punish the kid you caught then and there stealing candy.
Us? Just sounds like some, "Master we sick?!" shyt to me Black Panther.
I got no love for a government that has done and is still doing a lot to keep POC down and grant us no justice. They deserve every bad thing coming to them.
Grow up.
I don't like a lot of things about the government, but I still live here. So yeah, it's "us". For better of for worse. :kanyebp:
That's why it's important to vote and work to change how government operates. Sitting back and complaining about the Fed doing stuff you don't agree with does nothing.
The same people who criticize the government for oppressing POC are usually the same people trying to argue that we should either not vote or split the vote. :cambybp:
AnonymityX1000
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The flaw is the only punishment for 'stealing candy' is get back from the offended party. Their is no world government to punish us for all our past wrong doing. The only justice available for other foreign governments is doing something similar to us. And we have killed and kidnapped foreign leaders as well as helped opposition parties ''steal" elections. We are actually getting off easy compared to our past transgressions. Not just taking your L and moving on is only going to give other nations more opportunity to point at our past more horrific transgressions in light of this by comparison small one. Not only is this fight ethically slippery it is also bad strategy on our part.
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AnonymityX1000
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Grow some balls. We just live here, don't pretend this is your government. It is their government until white supremacy is irradicated.
And yeah splitting the vote is all perspective. Voting for Dems who are in cahoots with the same Republicans you think you are fighting to keep this a two party government is dumb. I think you should stop doing that and splitting the vote between Dems and an independent party who's platform is better for your demographic.
Stone Cold
Superstar
What's the source?
"...The daily beast has learned"
"Career hacker forgot to turn off and on his vpn and it so happened his IP address was in Russia"
You're smarter than this
Edit - don't tag me until you take that bet
Ban bet.
If Flynn gets exonerated, I take a six month ban.
Not bushed. BANNED.
"Exonerated" meaning if exculpatory evidence is found that was withheld by Mueller from him/his legal team, and his charges are subsequently dropped as a result.
Not a plea deal. Not immunity in exchange for cooperation.
Exonerated.
But.
If Flynn is sentenced on ANY of his current or future charges, you eat the six month ban.
Again, not bushed. BANNED.
You in?
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