Tsc can we agree on these kayfabe wwe tiers?

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Prof youre on fukking crack if you think dolph ziggler is tier 2. And reigns isnt above those guys. Good call on dudleys though.
He's between 2 and 3. He could beat Del Rio or Rusev on any given Smackdown and no one would bat an eyelash.

Reigns is absolutely in tier 0 according to WWE kayfabe. How many times has he beaten Wyatt and Rollins clean? They can't be in same tier. They got Reigns easily taking out Sheamus, Del Rio, Rusev and Barrett at once. They always mention on air that Reigns was "on the verge of beating Brock" at Mania before Rollins cashed in, and he's going over another tier zero guy HHH to win the title at Mania. What more evidence do you need?
 
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He's between 2 and 3. He could beat Del Rio or Rusev on any given Smackdown and no one would bat an eyelash.

Reigns is absolutely in tier 0 according to WWE kayfabe. How many times has he beaten Wyatt and Rollins clean? They can't be in same tier. They got Reigns easily taking out Sheamus, Del Rio, Rusev and Barrett at once. They always mention on air that Reigns was "on the verge of beating Brock" at Mania before Rollins cashed in, and he's going over another tier zero guy HHH to win the title at Mania. What more evidence do you need?
The fact that he isn't SPECIAL. the tier zero guys are barely even parts of the roster. I mean look at those names you can't tell me reigns wouldn't be a HUGE OUTLIER If you included him. he is a strong tier 1 but no way he's zero, not a chance.
 

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The fact that he isn't SPECIAL. the tier zero guys are barely even parts of the roster. I mean look at those names you can't tell me reigns wouldn't be a HUGE OUTLIER If you included him. he is a strong tier 1 but no way he's zero, not a chance.
So just say tier zero is part-timers only then. Its not even about how strong they are because Reigns could beat any of those guys and it wouldn't be a shock. Lord knows he's been booked to be stronger than STING, that's not even a debate.
 

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Just based off how WWE likes to book them:

Tier 0
: Gawd level part timers
Lesnar
Sting
Undertaker
Rock
HHH

Tier 1: Mainstay main eventers
Cena
Reigns
Bryan
Orton
Rollins

Tier 2: The Bray tier. He never contends for the title and is sometimes just stuck in random feuds, but he's involved in big time rivalries year round, rarely gets shafted of TV or mic time, and will have faced Cena, Taker, and Brock back to back to back at Mania's after this year's
Bray

Tier 3: Upper midcarders who are liable to be used in the main event from time to time
Ambrose
Sheamus
Owens
Del Rio
Rusev
New Day
Kane

Tier 4: Upper midcarders who are rarely, if ever, in the main event
Ziggler
Cesaro
Jericho
Styles
Barrett
Strowman
Harper
Paige
Charlotte

Tier 5: Midcarders who get burn
Neville
Kalisto (+ Sin Cara)
Ryback
Big Show
The Miz
Stardust
Uso's
Rowan
Social Outcasts
Becky

Tier 6: Midcarders who don't get much burn but still show up every week or so
Breeze
Titus
Dudleyz
Alicia
Brie
Sasha Banks (but after the Rumble she might be in Tier 4 or 5)
Naomi
Tamina

Tier 7: People who the WWE doesn't consider jobbers but regardless don't get much TV time or might sporadically be involved in a program
Mark Henry
Goldust
Truth
Swagger
Summer Rae

Tier 8: Zero TV time undercarders
Ascension
Matadores
Fandango
Ryder
Sandow
D Young
Cameron
 
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So just say tier zero is part-timers only then. Its not even about how strong they are because Reigns could beat any of those guys and it wouldn't be a shock. Lord knows he's been booked to be stronger than STING, that's not even a debate.
I explained it well.

Tier zero - special ocassion, or if you beat them its headlines

Sting lost at mania, to hhh hogan....hbk...Nash...hall...syxx...billy gunn...road Dogg....and hhh STILL shook his hand respecting him ....and he got a hhh match with no real buildup because he was defacto tier zero

No chance sting gets lower
No chance reigns gets higher
 
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Just based off how WWE likes to book them:

Tier 0
: Gawd level part timers
Lesnar
Sting
Undertaker
Rock
HHH

Tier 1: Mainstay main eventers
Cena
Reigns
Bryan
Orton
Rollins
Bray

Tier 2: Upper midcarders who are liable to be used in the main event from time to time
Ambrose
Sheamus
Owens
Del Rio
Rusev
New Day
Kane

Tier 3: Upper midcarders who are rarely, if ever, in the main event
Ziggler
Cesaro
Jericho
Styles
Barrett
Strowman
Harper

Tier 4: Midcarders who get burn
Neville
Kalisto (+ Sin Cara)
Ryback
Big Show
The Miz
Stardust
Uso's
Rowan
Social Outcasts

Tier 5: Midcarders who don't get much burn but still show up every week or so
Breeze
Titus
Dudleyz

Tier 6: People who the WWE doesn't consider jobbers but regardless don't get much TV time or might sporadically be involved in a program
Mark Henry
Goldust
Truth
Swagger

Tier 7: Zero TV time undercarders
Ascension
Matadores
Fandango
Ryder
Sandow
D Young
Honestly I shouldntve moved bray. Dude might take L's but he's unquestionably formidable and is facing Brock and brock takes him serious
 

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Honestly I shouldntve moved bray. Dude might take L's but he's unquestionably formidable and is facing Brock and brock takes him serious

If he's not in tier 1 he should just have a tier of his own, because he might not contend for the title but he's involved in big time feuds year round and has/will have faced Cena, Taker, and Brock back to back to back at Mania's. But at the same time they sometimes don't have anything for him and just stick him in any random feud
 

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I explained it well.

Tier zero - special ocassion, or if you beat them its headlines

Sting lost at mania, to hhh hogan....hbk...Nash...hall...syxx...billy gunn...road Dogg....and hhh STILL shook his hand respecting him ....and he got a hhh match with no real buildup because he was defacto tier zero

No chance sting gets lower
No chance reigns gets higher
Sting lost CLEAN to Seth Rollins, fool.

Reigns beat Seth clean on more than one occasion and it was never treated like any kind of upset. Reigns was always the favorite even while Seth was champ.

I dont think you realize the strength of the rocket they have strapped to Roman's ass to try to get him over. He almost never lost or took a pin with the Shield even as heels, and he has never been cleanly beaten in his entire solo career :heh: He's above everyone in kayfabe world.
 
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If he's not in tier 1 he should just have a tier of his own, because he might not contend for the title but he's involved in big time feuds year round and has/will have faced Cena, Taker, and Brock back to back to back at Mania's. But at the same time they sometimes don't have anything for him and just stick him in any random feud
He's Jake Roberts basically.
 
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