TSC Evaluation #122: Billy Kidman

mrken12 · Dec 26, 2018

In the last evaluation, Mitsuharu Misawa got a score of 9.89.

TSC Evaluation #121: Mitsuharu Misawa

If people have any requests for future wrestlers you want to see evaluated, let me know. I'll have one wrestler evaluated for each week every Wednesday. The leaderboard is updated every 5 threads so it's never too late to vote for previous threads.

For #123 it will be New Jack.

Pending requests: Akira Hokuto, Bret Hart, Chavo Guerrero Jr, Jerry Lynn, Sgt Slaughter, Kenta Kobashi, Steve Corino, Bad News Brown, The Great Muta, Ultimo Dragon, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Austin Aries, Road Dogg

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Major Accomplishments

East Coast Wrestling Association
ECWA Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Ace Darling
ECWA Hall of Fame (Class of 2004)

Pro Wrestling Illustrated
Ranked No. 92 of the 500 best singles wrestlers of the year in PWI 500 in 2004

Revolution Xtreme Wrestling
RXW World Heavyweight Championship (1x)

Trans-World Wrestling Federation
TWWF Cruiserweight Championship (1x)

World Championship Wrestling
WCW Cruiserweight Championship (3x)
WCW Cruiserweight Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Rey Mysterio, Jr.
WCW World Tag Team Championship (2x) – with Rey Mysterio Jr. (1) and Konnan (1)

World Series Wrestling
WSW World Heavyweight Championship (1x)

World Wrestling Federation/Entertainment
WCW/WWF/E Cruiserweight Championship (4x)
WWE Tag Team Championship (1x) – with Paul London

With a scale of 1-10 how would you rate Billy Kidman in these categories:

-Mic work/promos

-Personality/gimmicks

-Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds)

-Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores)

mrken12 · Dec 26, 2018

Ill-Yaz · Dec 26, 2018

Favourite shooting star press and one of my favorite cruiserweights from the WCW days

Ill give him a 6 because he did not have much else besides ring work

The Rainmaker · Dec 26, 2018

Obligatory

Vic Damone. Jr · Dec 26, 2018

2CT · Dec 26, 2018

mrken12 said:
For #123 it will be New Jack.

oh this gon be some major fukkery :mjgrin:

Mʀ2ᴋDᴇᴇᴢ · Dec 26, 2018

AlabasterJones said:

One of the GOAT themes :wow:

904Lurker · Dec 26, 2018

I hate that he's an agent behind the scenes.

Francis White · Dec 26, 2018

5 good to great in the ring . He is a poor mans XPAC. He would be the New Cedric if this was 2018.

Ill-Yaz · Dec 26, 2018

Francis White said:
5 good to great in the ring . He is a poor mans XPAC. He would be the New Cedric if this was 2018.

Did kinda hate when they had X-Pac put kidman over during the invasion angle

Heelish · Dec 26, 2018

I’d say 6, but his Shooting Star Press was trash and that brought him down 2 points. How often did he connect without botching or flipping crooked? Then again, his SSP was the first time I’ve ever seen one. And his WWE theme was dope. :ld:

I’ll give him a 5.

XannyWarbucks · Dec 26, 2018

AlabasterJones said:

Lmao this rapey- ass song.

this was the shyt, too.

DamienWayne · Dec 26, 2018

GOAT theme song no debate

BrehWyatt · Dec 26, 2018

His SSP was the shyt when he was the only person I knew that was doing it.

But it has not aged well. I think he made the thing more difficult than it had to be and as a result, it became shyt.

However ... this cat stayed with a banger of a theme at all times and frankly, some of his signature offense was legit.

So ... good theme catalog, good moveset + trash finish, knocked down Torrie Wilson ...

fukk it, 6.

mrken12 said:
For #123 it will be New Jack.

I know you're gonna post a link to Natural Born Killaz in the first post of that thread... it's only right that song plays at all times during his rating. :ohlawd:

Playaz Eyez · Dec 26, 2018

Somewhat a favorable 6. He was an identifiable dude and had a pretty decent character evolution from white meat baby face jobber to itchy STD Flock member heel to popular midcarder face with a super hot Torrie at his side. Liked him teaming with Rey. Hated his feud with Hogan cause it was so unbelievable. No way in hell I was buying a midcarder Kidman being pushed as a prick and a bad ass vs Hulk Hogan. I'm all for pushes, but I hate completely unrealistic stuff like that.

He had an ok WWE run. The crowd was really into him even though the WWF were trying to beat into people's heads that WCW was second rate. The X-Pac feud was very telling cause X-Pac was repping the WWF, but Kidman was getting a lot of cheers over him. Re-watch the Kidman/X-Pac match at Invasion. The crowd popped for X-Pac's entrance then boo'd the shyt out him once he stepped in the ring :russ:

they were FIRMLY behind Kidman. I think he was some good matches with Tajiri and Jamie Knoble too. Was a fan of the Paul London team too, but around this time, he was slowly picking up weight but still trying to be a high flyer, kind of like Ahmed Johnson after his prime :francis:

that's why he was sloppy as shyt in 2004. Him crushing Chavo's face with an SSP had accidentally kicked off a really dope feud turning on Paul London. It was a great build, with every week Kidman being scared to do the SSP, and London trying to convince him to do so, capped off with a very good match at (I think) No Mercy 2004. Kidman was so good in this new heel role, but his body was breaking down week by week, and was far out of his athletic prime. London and Kidman fought more after No Mercy, but I really don't remember anything about Kidman's WWE tenure after that, other than being released and coming back years later as a road agent or producer. Kidman pretty much outkicked his coverage in wrestling getting as popular as he got and for being with Torrie on and off screen :pachaha:

he had nice themes throughout his tenure as well, and the Shooting Star Press is pretty much synonymous with him, though after all these years, he may have the worst SSP from everybody that has done it, but as far as I know, he's the first person I've seen do it, so he gets credit for that.

Smackdown in 04 mostly sucked outside of Eddie and Rey, but Kidman and London's feud was great. What I didn't realize til after I kinda backtracked was that this feud --- featuring two midcarders that had just lost the titles --- was a feud that was on and off and lasted til the beginning of 2005. The feud basically started in September of 2004 and ended in March :dead:

And it didn't feature two guys just fighting each other and exchanging wins every week. They made every interaction matter.

Two good matches they had here. The last one was a pretty bloody one and added to the intensity of it.

TSC Evaluation #122: Billy Kidman

Overall Rating

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Veteran

Veteran

All Star

Mr. Money in the Bank

Don't support the phonies, support the real

Prolific Poster

Licensed New Age Healer

R.I.P Young Dolph

i been away to long, my feeling died.

All Star

#TSC #spooky

Superstar

Superstar

Let me work.

Veteran