Turk Released From Prison After Nine Years

[JayYoung314]

nah. this is revisionist history.

wayne was basically a roleplayer. he attracted the women & children to the squad. he was like the vinnie johnson/jamal crawford/j.r. smith type. the 6th man on a basketball team, whos main job is to come off the bench & score.

thats wassup. he was like the super-energy guy, and basically the main attraction at their concerts but musically? NAH. the more serious hip-hop fans generally saw him as the weakest of the group(which isnt neccessarily a bad thing considering how great this group was). he wasnt taken seriously as a rapper until gillie da kid. and then he fell off after that but the bar for mainstream hip-hop was lowered so far down that it didnt even matter by that point.



wayne was better than BG now?

at least the turk/wayne chit would spark arguments back in the day.

but BG being behind anybody but juvi wasnt even a respectable idea.

yall trippin right now.

fukk outta here. b.g. was hard, true, but wayne was catchin more buzz even back in the hot boys days. now b.g. choppa city was better than most of waynes solo cds at the time, but as far as rappin, wayne was just a lil step ahead of b.g. stop trying to rewrite history.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

& at Wacky about to spend the next 2 to 3 weeks sporadically upping this thread with these "Turk was unanimously considered as better than Wayne back in the hotboy days" 's again ... Turk was pretty clearly last on the totem pole in just about every regard in the hotboys and that era of CMR in general (...popularity, rapping ability, relevance, etc...arguments to the contrary are like clinical examples of revisionist history

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

fukk outta here. b.g. was hard, true, but wayne was catchin more buzz even back in the hot boys days. now b.g. choppa city was better than most of waynes solo cds at the time, but as far as rappin, wayne was just a lil step ahead of b.g. stop trying to rewrite history.

dont disrespect me.

back on topic, wayne was the most commercially viable, outside of juvi. that was his role homie.

aint nobody rewriting history over here. how old are you, and what year did you hop off the porch, may i ask? and dont lie, cuz a nicca like me can see right thru the chit the more you speak. thats what it all comes down to concerning people's outlook on wayne during the hot boy years. wayne was moreso a favorite amongst women, children and 9th/10th graders who were hopping off the porch a bit late. AND IM NOT KNOCKING OR TRYING TO OFFEND ANYBODY. if thats when you hopped off, thats wassup. im just saying that these are the types that rode with wayne back then. bg & turk was just as young as wayne, but they felt the need to stress wayne's age the most. you ever wonder why? lol. come on man. get with it.

saying that wayne was a step ahead of bg back then is just flat-out ridiculous. wayne's peak was being compared to turk.

in reality, wayne was the butt of many jokes up until carter 1 with all his cartoonish catchphrases and sound-effects that people either loved or hated.

& at Wacky about to spend the next 2 to 3 weeks sporadically upping this thread with these "Turk was unanimously considered as better than Wayne back in the hotboy days" 's again ... Turk was pretty clearly last on the totem pole in just about every regard in the hotboys and that era of CMR in general (...popularity, rapping ability, relevance, etc...arguments to the contrary are like clinical examples of revisionist history

another noob that prefers to revel in ignorance.

and its funny how you seem to "know" so much about me, but i never even heard of yo @$$.

and i never said that turk was unanimously more popular. i had just said that it was a common debate between the 2, but youre too busy riding my jock to read, it seems. i mean, lol, dude just tried to say that wayne was hotter than BG and you just ignored the chit(you prolly dont know any better either) and went straight at me? okay buddy.

bottom line, juvi & bg were the top dogs. wayne & turk were potentially next up. turk was more respected but wayne was more popular amongst the radio bunch. so yea, its easy for things like that to fall out of proper perspective.

 

[alpo]

nah. this is revisionist history.

wayne was basically a roleplayer. he attracted the women & children to the squad. he was like the vinnie johnson/jamal crawford/j.r. smith type. the 6th man on a basketball team, whos main job is to come off the bench & score.

thats wassup. he was like the super-energy guy, and basically the main attraction at their concerts but musically? NAH. the more serious hip-hop fans generally saw him as the weakest of the group(which isnt neccessarily a bad thing considering how great this group was). he wasnt taken seriously as a rapper until gillie da kid. and then he fell off after that but the bar for mainstream hip-hop was lowered so far down that it didnt even matter by that point.

so you gonna forget about the squad up mixtapes yeah , nikka who wrote that?


wayne was better than BG now?

at least the turk/wayne chit would spark arguments back in the day.

but BG being behind anybody but juvi wasnt even a respectable idea.

yall trippin right now.

 

[alpo]

dont disrespect me.

back on topic, wayne was the most commercially viable, outside of juvi. that was his role homie.

aint nobody rewriting history over here. how old are you, and what year did you hop off the porch, may i ask? and dont lie, cuz a nicca like me can see right thru the chit the more you speak. thats what it all comes down to concerning people's outlook on wayne during the hot boy years. wayne was moreso a favorite amongst women, children and 9th/10th graders who were hopping off the porch a bit late. AND IM NOT KNOCKING OR TRYING TO DEFEND ANYBODY. if thats when you hopped off, thats wassup. im just saying that these are the types that rode with wayne back then. bg & turk was just as young as wayne, but they felt the need to stress wayne's age the most. you ever wonder why? lol. come on man. get with it.

saying that wayne was a step ahead of bg back then is just flat-out ridiculous. wayne's peak was being compared to turk.

in reality, wayne was the butt of many jokes up until carter 1 with all his cartoonish catchphrases and sound-effects that people either loved or hated.

 

[JayYoung314]

dont disrespect me.

back on topic, wayne was the most commercially viable, outside of juvi. that was his role homie.

aint nobody rewriting history over here. how old are you, and what year did you hop off the porch, may i ask? and dont lie, cuz a nicca like me can see right thru the chit the more you speak. thats what it all comes down to concerning people's outlook on wayne during the hot boy years. wayne was moreso a favorite amongst women, children and 9th/10th graders who were hopping off the porch a bit late. AND IM NOT KNOCKING OR TRYING TO DEFEND ANYBODY. if thats when you hopped off, thats wassup. im just saying that these are the types that rode with wayne back then. bg & turk was just as young as wayne, but they felt the need to stress wayne's age the most. you ever wonder why? lol. come on man. get with it.

saying that wayne was a step ahead of bg back then is just flat-out ridiculous. wayne's peak was being compared to turk.

in reality, wayne was the butt of many jokes up until carter 1 with all his cartoonish catchphrases and sound-effects that people either loved or hated.

im 27 homie, i remember the rise of the hoy boys and cash money period. b.g. was definitely one of the hottest out dont get me wrong, but whos verse do people quote more on bling bling, b.g.'s or waynes? whos lyrics did people quote more on back that ass up? or hot boys "we on fire"? you seem to be the one stuck in fantasy island... at no specific point was b.g. regarded any higher than lil wayne, if nothing else he just complimented the group, but as a solo artist his buzz was nowhere near as high as waynes. B.G. was very popular, they all were, but everyone pretty much knew wayne was that nikka, and you trying to falsify some other image or facts for B.G. that never existed is only slightly amusing at best.

 

[Habit]

bottom line, juvi & bg were the top dogs. wayne & turk were potentially next up. turk was more respected but wayne was more popular amongst the radio bunch. so yea, its easy for things like that to fall out of proper perspective.

Turk and Wayne were debated because they were less developed musically than Juvi & B.G., and couldn't come close to the body of work of Juvi & B.G. had by that point. Wayne first 3 solo cds were good, but it came when Juvi and B.G. were producing much better music. Its hard to take anything from Wayne because he was learning how to rap while running with two of the best rappers coming out of NO.

I considered Turk and Wayne equal, until Wayne started his run with those Sqad Up tapes. Only Carter 2 Wayne would be able to keep up with Juvi and B.G. if a Hot Boys cd dropped today. If they dropped a Hot Boys cd today, Wayne with his incoherent rhyming and random punchlines would not sound good next to Juvi and B.G. who would actually have something to say.

at no specific point was b.g. regarded any higher than lil wayne, if nothing else he just complimented the group, but as a solo artist his buzz was nowhere near as high as waynes. B.G. was very popular, they all were, but everyone pretty much knew wayne was that nikka, and you trying to falsify some other image or facts for B.G. that never existed is only slightly amusing at best.

Are you using buzz and popularity to compare B.G. and Wayne? I rather focus on skill level. Can you honestly rate Wayne higher than B.G., when from 1999 - 2005 Wayne was still coming up? By then B.G. made his impact, while Wayne was still on his way. B.G. had better cds than Wayne during the Hot Boys days, but I still can't figure out how an unproven Wayne is better than B.G. because of the buzz factor. If that's the case Nelly & Ja Rule > B.G.

You wanna talk about Buzz, well Wayne was always more marketable, but he is not even the highest selling Cash Money artist till this day. Kids loved Wayne, this is why he was doing songs with Sammie and Bow Wow. Philly and Dip Set influence helped Wayne reach the next level.

The consensus Wayne became that n1gga during the Carter 1 era. By then B.G. already made history.

 

[Drizzy Dre]

I've been rollin with CMR for a while. Went to their tour with Ruff Ryders way back in the day. Turk just completed the group. Juvy struck first with "Ha" and then with "Back that Azz Up", B.G. dropped "Chopper City is an Army" and "Bling Bling" (Turk's verse was taken off the video and given to Wayne). Then Wayne did his thing with "The Block is Hot". Turk didn't drop his album until after B.G. & Wayne's next solos and the Big Tymers. Dude was never the focus but I'm glad he got out and is still making music.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

nah. this is revisionist history.

wayne was basically a roleplayer. he attracted the women & children to the squad. he was like the vinnie johnson/jamal crawford/j.r. smith type. the 6th man on a basketball team, whos main job is to come off the bench & score.

thats wassup. he was like the super-energy guy, and basically the main attraction at their concerts but musically? NAH. the more serious hip-hop fans generally saw him as the weakest of the group(which isnt neccessarily a bad thing considering how great this group was). he wasnt taken seriously as a rapper until gillie da kid. and then he fell off after that but the bar for mainstream hip-hop was lowered so far down that it didnt even matter by that point.



wayne was better than BG now?

at least the turk/wayne chit would spark arguments back in the day.

but BG being behind anybody but juvi wasnt even a respectable idea.

yall trippin right now.

You're fooling. I was of age (19/20) when wayne dropped. copped block is hot the day it dropped,same with young and thuggin. Turk was always the wish bone/u-god of the clique,weakest verses (most of the time) and had the weakest most ignored debut out of all the hot boys post major deal. As far as B.G vs wayne. Although i liked B.G, better due to his track record and his more real sounding songs,it was clear to me in 1999 that wayne was #2 in the talent dept behind juvie.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Are you using buzz and popularity to compare B.G. and Wayne? I rather focus on skill level. Can you honestly rate Wayne higher than B.G., when from 1999 - 2005 Wayne was still coming up? By then B.G. made his impact, while Wayne was still on his way. B.G. had better cds than Wayne during the Hot Boys days, but an unproven Wayne is better than B.G. because of the buzz factor. If that's the case Nelly > B.G.

I'd say based on absolutely nothing but skill alone, Wayne was hands down nicer than B.G. no later than Lights Out...BG's prime to me was It's All On U 1 & 2 through Chopper City In the Ghetto...whether it be from drug use, complacency, lack of interest or whatever else after Chopper City in the Ghetto B.G. started to decline skills wise...while Wayne got steadily better...if we're talking purely lyrically, Lights Out is flat out more advanced than Check Mate...and that's in 2000 on their 2nd round of solo albums after the Universal deal, not to mention the entire Sqad Mixtape series that wayne was spazzing and blacking out on between then and '04...compared to them albums BG put out through Koch

 

[mortuus est]

Someone post turk, juvi bg and wayne best solo track from the hotboyz days, please i want to compre

 

[TheNig]

I find it hard to believe that Slim and Baby won't take care of him. Him, Wayne, BG basically grew up in their houses and shyt. Juvie was the outsider.

 

[Dzali OG]

Man lemme help yall out...

Juve was the perceived star of the group on a national level. Real nikkas in the south esp NO however knew BG wasn't baby gangsta for nothing. He had dropped a few well received cd's even before the HB's were out.

Weezy and Turk were a toss up with wayne not even old enough to curse yet. Yeah you saw the potential in wayne but at the time he was there being groomed for the future. at anyone putting BG last. That just shows you either weren't around or a hoe ass nikka...

 

[Habit]

I'd say based on absolutely nothing but skill alone, Wayne was hands down nicer than B.G. no later than Lights Out...BG's prime to me was It's All On U 1 & 2 through Chopper City In the Ghetto...whether it be from drug use, complacency, lack of interest or whatever else after Chopper City in the Ghetto B.G. started to decline skills wise...while Wayne got steadily better...if we're talking purely lyrically, Lights Out is flat out more advanced than Check Mate...and that's in 2000, not to mention the entire Sqad Mixtape series that wayne was spazzing and blacking out on between then and '04...compared to them albums BG put out through Koch

Let me get this straight, you named 3 B.G. albums from his prime and his most productive years, and then talk about Lights Out & SQ tapes that came out years later. This is confusing. Lets stick to the Hot Boys era, this is the era where everyone is saying Wayne was better than B.G.

 

[mcellas]

Turk