smh. WW3 popping off at any moment.
Turkey 'downs Russian warplane on Syria border'
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it gets worse...the rebels shot at the pilots as they parachuted and killed them
lol that's like if me and you join sides to take on a common enemy but you shoot up my car when I ride through your neighborhood looking for the enemy. Our country is going to get us fukked up.
ill
Superstar
Which is a war crime. If they prove it was Turkish troops then shyts gonna hit the fan.
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
So in summary,
The Turks are trying to ruin any hopes for cooperation between Russia, the Assad regime and the Europeans in defeating IS, especially if Russia responds aggressively. There was a risk before this that Turkey would be cut out of a resolution to the Syrian Civil War leaving it with a normalized Kurdish statelet on their border. If the Paris attacks do lead to a decisive campaign against the Islamic state it will now have to be a NATO-only affair and Turkey will have its say in the resolution of the conflict.
Now we have to wait for the Russian response and for the attitude of the US towards all of this to be made clear. Obama has made it clear Turkey has the right to defend its airspace. I think the US will now be attempting to sabotage any prospect for Russian-European cooperation (an obvious long-term strategic imperative).
The orders were probably to shoot down a Russian plane near Turkish airspace if they continued to attack Turkmen targets in Syria. There's also the fact that these bombings along the border between the Euphrates and the Kurdish exclave near Hatay have been part of a planned campaign to close the Turkish border which I would guess the Turks aren't happy about. Oh and we can't forget the 1000 destroyed oil trucks coming from ISIS territory to Turkey.
In the Turkish sense, its a smart move. But, are they willing to deal with the costs? We'll see if Erdogan and Putin ever kiss and make up.
The Turks are trying to ruin any hopes for cooperation between Russia, the Assad regime and the Europeans in defeating IS, especially if Russia responds aggressively. There was a risk before this that Turkey would be cut out of a resolution to the Syrian Civil War leaving it with a normalized Kurdish statelet on their border. If the Paris attacks do lead to a decisive campaign against the Islamic state it will now have to be a NATO-only affair and Turkey will have its say in the resolution of the conflict.
Now we have to wait for the Russian response and for the attitude of the US towards all of this to be made clear. Obama has made it clear Turkey has the right to defend its airspace. I think the US will now be attempting to sabotage any prospect for Russian-European cooperation (an obvious long-term strategic imperative).
The orders were probably to shoot down a Russian plane near Turkish airspace if they continued to attack Turkmen targets in Syria. There's also the fact that these bombings along the border between the Euphrates and the Kurdish exclave near Hatay have been part of a planned campaign to close the Turkish border which I would guess the Turks aren't happy about. Oh and we can't forget the 1000 destroyed oil trucks coming from ISIS territory to Turkey.
In the Turkish sense, its a smart move. But, are they willing to deal with the costs? We'll see if Erdogan and Putin ever kiss and make up.
It speaks volumes when the opposition sides with the main party over an event. this will not end wheel.
@Napoleon so what if it turns out the Turks
- downed the plane
- shot the pilots as they landed
- have been acting as ISIS oil conduit
What course of action do you see? Would you admit to Putin having been right the whole time?
Who said Putin was wrong? I just don't want to capitulate to him.
Nothing good can come from meddling in this region of the world. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and work to de-escalate this crisis.
seriously?
So basically Turkey giving ISIS the air vehicles they don't have? the fukk?! and we said "Well, Russia
you did violate their airspace"??????
"What a time to be alive"Lol. Like I said. Be on the wrong side of history just so you don't have to admit Putin got the drop on u brehs. Looks like Obama agrees with you. We are doomed