TV networks have always killed wrestling

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TNT's new ownwers cause of AOL & WCW

and now DA is tryna murk TNA this doesnt sit well with me ROH will exist regardless but TNA needs this deal atleast in the US..

I dont even get WGN who they were in discussions with in NYC... Hopefully the wrestling block works out well enough for them too renew TNA.
 

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This is fact
Wcw and Ecw didnt have to die, Tommy dreamer said ECW were in negotiations with a network and almost had a deal but Heyman backed out and went to WWF. WCW could habe been saved with Bishoff selling the rights to a company and with a tv deal with FX but the AOL executive soled it to WWF for a cheaper price before the deal was made.
 
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The product is seen as too trashy, low class, and offensive to draw big advertisers and therefore big money.

Toss in the general stigma that "Pro Wrestling" has and....there ya go.

I've always wondered what a wrestling show controlled by say...NBC would be like. And if they would be able to pull in advertisers.

Fox, at various stages throughout the years, probably would have been a good fit as well.
 
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TNA killed themselves.

ECW killed itself by running into debt and not paying its talent

WCW is arguable since the network literally owned them, but they also were spending deep in the red even at their height, definitely by their end.


blame networks for irresponsible wrestling bookers/promoters/general incompetency brehs.
 

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i remember rumors in the mid-90s that rupert murdoch was gonna launch his own promotion.
Maaaaan.....imagine ECW with Heyman, WWF with Vince, WCW with Ted Turners deep pockets, and THEN fukking Murdoch and Fox jumping in....:wow:

Hmm...more I think about it though...was there enough talent to go around? Most would suggest that there already wasn't just between WWF and WCW....:mindblown:

But, most also argue that competition tends to bring out the best in people....:patrice:
 

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Aces & Eights for an entire year


didnt watch but i'll take 1 year of that over 12 years of super cena, cripple h, miz tv, sheamus, jbl, khali, shuckin-n-jivin, etc etc


the fukk are you talking about? not being a delusional fukkboi tna fan weirdo is why advertisers hate wrestling fans?


lol.

this guy really went out of his way to prove my point.

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Maaaaan.....imagine ECW with Heyman, WWF with Vince, WCW with Ted Turners deep pockets, and THEN fukking Murdoch and Fox jumping in....:wow:
Hmm...more I think about it though...was there enough talent to go around? Most would suggest that there already wasn't just between WWF and WCW....:mindblown:
But, most also argue that competition tends to bring out the best in people....:patrice:
yea, i think there was enough talent on the shelf.
plus, you figure wcw was so over-crowded. alot of guys wouldve jumped for more money and/or a bigger push. they wouldve dug in the wwf's roster too.
 
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WCW died because they continued to pay washed up wrestlers millions a year, toss in the their 99-00 period which in my opinion was the worst wrestling i'd ever seen and they were doomed for bankruptcy.
 

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Wcw and Ecw didnt have to die, Tommy dreamer said ECW were in negotiations with a network and almost had a deal but Heyman backed out and went to WWF. WCW could habe been saved with Bishoff selling the rights to a company and with a tv deal with FX but the AOL executive soled it to WWF for a cheaper price before the deal was made.

For some reason I always thought that there was some shady behind-the-scenes business with that deal. I know that AOL exec wanted to get rid of WCW but you would think they would try to make more money from the sale. Especially with the huge tape library that WCW owned at the time.
 

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:mjpls: WWE had an inside guy in WCW, which is why WCW was sold for so little, but seems like nobody talks about that for some reason. :sas2:
"While Fusient was still at the negotiating table [and negotiating in good faith], Siegel was contacting his friend Stu Snyder at the WWF to figure out what needed to be done to make sure the WWF got the deal." According to Ryder, Siegel and " Stu Snyder (the top WWF exec who brokered the deal) were friends and co-workers when Snyder worked with Time Warner. It is widely believed that Siegel offered the job of WCW President to Snyder near the end of the Busch era, but that Snyder turned it down and went to work with the WWF."

"When it became obvious that the only way the WWF could get back in the hunt to buy WCW would be if the shows were cancelled...that's exactly what Siegel made sure happened."

"Siegel sabotaged his own company by convincing Kellner to cancel the shows. He did that AFTER he made a call to Stu Snyder and found out the only way he could make a deal with the WWF was to cancel the shows." "Once the shows were cancelled, that narrowed the potential buyers to one."

"There were at least four offers from people who were willing to pay much more than the WWF paid..... A group headed by former WCW exec Jay Hassman had tried several times to be included in the bidding, and they were ignored repeatedly."
 
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