Twitter argument: Do black men have privilege?

[marcuz]

yes. i feel like bm use stereotypes to their advantage like asian women when it comes to interracial communities. in the black community there is no question about this privilege.

privilege does not mean an easy life. it just means u have less hurdles than someone else in some category.

you forgot to mention the privilege.

edit: oh, i get it. we're privileged by the big dikk stereotype to date outside our race more. even though BW have the big ass, big lips, hyper sexual stereotype attached them as well.

 

[The Oracle]

NPR unpacked this entire topic 5 years ago, but for those who want to listen or read to a black male professor break it down, here it is: Black Male Privilege?

Snippet:

MARTIN: So, define black male privilege. Im sure thats a phrase on its face that will get people to sit up and take notice.

Prof. LEWIS: My working definition is really a system of built-in and often overlooked systematic advantages that center the experience and the concerns of black males while minimizing the power that black males hold, which is a fancy way of saying, we are absolutely used to talking about African-American men in crisis. And we can talk about this crisis so much that we miss the ways in which black men are oppressed and can also serve as oppressors.

MARTIN: And when you say privileged, I think generally people think of privilege in relation to whom. So, when you think of privilege, are you speaking relative to someone?

Prof. LEWIS: Absolutely. Black male privilege is first centered as being relative to black women. Im not comparing black males privilege to white male privilege. I think one could argue that, but itd be a very dangerous leap. When we look in the African-American community, there are actually spaces where black men are advantaged and often sometimes dominate a dialogue, when we should be listening more carefully to whats happening with black women equally.

 

[Gravity]

Black men were given the right to vote a full 50 years before black OR white women

Rights on paper don't mean shyt. Rights/laws/contracts don't mean shyt unless they are enforced and protected. Whites signed numerous treaties with the Natives and broke every one Technically blacks and whites have the same rights on paper. So while black men had the right to vote on paper the fact that the right wasn't protected by the government meant that it didn't mean shyt. Not only did white civilians form terrorist groups like the kkk to keep black men from voting, white politicians created legal road blocks to keep black men from voting.

you don't even have an open mind about this, you're just going to cling to that agenda huh?

 

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[marcuz]

actually i was not specifically talking about sex. i was gonna post a study that showed black boys benefited from black stereotypes while those same stereotypes resulted in the isolation of black girls.

that interaction with whites/asians/hispanic lead to more acceptance, better access to resources through your network of friends etc

although this so called more acceptance doesn't translate into anything tangible. this is what i think this whole thing boils down to. black women feeling jealous that black men are viewed as cooler than they are. all this other bullshyt is a smoke screen.

 

[Osmosis]

Reading through this thread

We have a long way to way to go

 

[13473]

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

My response is based on the overall sentiment I have seen in this thread and others. My response is not a response to any post in particular.

Why is there this notion that black women are protected from physical violence?

Mike Brown
Freddie Gray
Eric Garner
John Crawford
Tamir Rice
Walter Scott

Do those names ring a bell? Probably.

How about

Tanisha Anderson
Yvette Smith
Darnisha Harris
Shereese Francis
Tarika Wilson
Kathryn Johnston
Kendra James

How familiar is the second set of names? Perhaps vaguely.

We know who Emmett Till is, but do you know the story of Mildrey Brown?

Some would argue that black men have the privilege of ignoring the plight of black women, but I won't argue that. I will just say that black women have been lynched, hosed down, attacked by dogs, falsely arrested, beaten and killed by police right alongside black men.Why does this fact get dismissed?

This is not an oppression competition, but it is important to be accurate and acknowledge that we are in this together.

Spoiler

You know how many stories and crimes that have been commited towards bm that have been swept under the rug , not talked about ?

With bm it happens so frequently that people will notice it more . thats something you cant deny

And yes bw were getting hung burnt burned and hosed to. We knew that.

 

[Gravity]

uhh no, it is not jealousy. your privilege showing. don't dismiss my complaints as a bw. you should pay attention because i as a black person know what it feels like to NOT have privilege, so it makes sense that i can recognize not having the privileges another group has. you as a black person are not used to it, so you won't be aware to recognize when you have it.

and yes, it does translate into tangible things. you have white friends who can hook you up with jobs. i've seen it happen.

So why are black women currently faring better in college and in the job market? Do you understand what "tangible" means?

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

Bottom line

Bm has the biggest disadvantage in America

If you disagree ur an a$$hole and a idiot

They will hire a bw before a bm

 

[Ronnie Lott]

uhh no, it is not jealousy. your privilege showing. don't dismiss my complaints as a bw. you should pay attention because i as a black person know what it feels like to NOT have privilege, so it makes sense that i can recognize not having the privileges another group has. you as a black person are not used to it, so you won't be aware to recognize when you have it.

and yes, it does translate into tangible things. you have white friends who can hook you up with jobs. i've seen it happen.

 

[Anwulika]

I think that the best way to determine whether one is more/less privileged than someone else is to ask yourself whether you'd rather be in their shoes or not. As a black female, I really wouldn't want to be in a black man's shoes with the way that they're being treated in society. However, it's up to us black women to stand up for black men (and vice versa) rather than to undermine their struggles.

 

[Jaw-Breaka]

Bw go there way

Bm go there way

It can be a mutual agreement
No love lost

 

[Canon]

New age black male feminists need to die

its sad as hell they exist

just taking on arguments from there bitter moms

 

[Gravity]

My response is based on the overall sentiment I have seen in this thread and others. My response is not a response to any post in particular.

Why is there this notion that black women are protected from physical violence?

Mike Brown
Freddie Gray
Eric Garner
John Crawford
Tamir Rice
Walter Scott

Do those names ring a bell? Probably.

How about

Tanisha Anderson
Yvette Smith
Darnisha Harris
Shereese Francis
Tarika Wilson
Kathryn Johnston
Kendra James

How familiar is the second set of names? Perhaps vaguely.

We know who Emmett Till is, but do you know the story of Mildrey Brown?

Some would argue that black men have the privilege of ignoring the plight of black women, but I won't argue that. I will just say that black women have been lynched, hosed down, attacked by dogs, falsely arrested, beaten and killed by police right alongside black men.Why does this fact get dismissed?

This is not an oppression competition, but it is important to be accurate and acknowledge that we are in this together.

Spoiler

Do you take this same attitude in regards to an issue like say domestic violence? Even though black women are clearly victims of DV at higher rates than black women, black are victims of DV too. Yet this fact is often called a deflection to black women being domestically abused simply because black men aren't domestically abused as much. DV against black men is basically ignored and even made fun of(see jay Z-Solange), would you say that's an example of black female privilege?