Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey shares his top five rap albums of all-time

[SirBiatch]

There's not many rappers I would call straight up pop rappers. FloRida? Pit Bull?
Kendrick isn't in that category.

just because you're not Florida or Pitbull doesn't make you not pop rap. Kendrick sing songs his way through a fair part of GKMC using fairly standard hip pop production of today (Young Money, HitBoy)

Besides, you start fawning over Taylor Swift, we know where you fit in. Interscope wouldn't be spending pop marketing money on a non-pop rapper.

Lettuce be...

 

[mobbinfms]

and thats exactly what Just Blaze said. We have people in here trying to apply music theory...which was probably derived from a time that black people were in slavery and generally from a eurocentric perspective to a music genre that was created by, created for, and permeated by black people. It just sounds stupid to me.

I mean if Music theory is that inflexible why would I give a fukk about it? Rules are meant to shift according to societies values...so in a way Music theory should be sort of like Civil Law. Who is to say that what some was said 100s of years ago should apply today? Precedents are set and overturned as time passes.

Exactly.
I remember reading something about...I think it was Prince...and about how he embraces mistakes made in the music...that if it works...he keeps it.

 

[mobbinfms]

just because you're not Florida or Pitbull doesn't make you not pop rap. Kendrick sing songs his way through a fair part of GKMC using fairly standard hip pop production of today (Young Money, HitBoy)

Besides, you start fawning over Taylor Swift, we know where you fit in. Interscope wouldn't be spending pop marketing money on a non-pop rapper. Lettuce be...

I disagree. I've got a really high bar for labelling someone a pop rapper. What beats on GKMC were "hip pop" to you? I can't think of one?
And where is the sing songing?
Didn't see the part about pop money marketing. Receipts?

 

[SirBiatch]

and thats exactly what Just Blaze said. We have people in here trying to apply music theory...which was probably derived from a time that black people were in slavery and generally from a eurocentric perspective to a music genre that was created by, created for, and permeated by american black people. People with different musical experiences or backgrounds. It just sounds stupid to me.

I mean if Music theory is that inflexible why would I give a fukk about it? Rules are meant to shift according to societies values...so in a way Music theory should be sort of like Civil Law. Who is to say that what some was said 100s of years ago should apply today? Precedents are set and overturned as time passes.

smartest post I've read in a minute on here

 

[Harry B]

That's a solid "era unbiased" list. Cats are too biased towards the golden era. I'm as well, I love it but I have no problems comparing golden era albums to newer shyt.
My brother is a teenager and he has some friends thatve listened to 36 chambers twice, don't know the lyrics to any song and yet say that it's one of their favorite albums.

 

[SirBiatch]

I disagree. I've got a really high bar for labelling someone a pop rapper. What beats on GKMC were "hip pop" to you? I can't think of one?
And where is the sing songing?

who did the beat for Swimming Pools and Backseat Freestyle? Let's not forget pop rap king Drake's presence on the album.

You really think all that was by coincidence?

Money Trees "they say Halle Berry, or Hallelujah"... That shyt's pop, my nikka! Like some Nelly shyt. Just way worse.

 

[the cac mamba]

That's a solid "era unbiased" list. Cats are too biased towards the golden era. I'm as well, I love it but I have no problems comparing golden era albums to newer shyt.
My brother is a teenager and he has some friends thatve listened to 36 chambers twice, don't know the lyrics to any song and yet say that it's one of their favorite albums.

your right, but theres still a reason it was golden

i mean run the jewels over the infamous or cuban linx?

 

[mobbinfms]

who did the beat for Swimming Pools and Backseat Freestyle? Let's not forget pop rap king Drake's presence on the album.

What does it matter who did the beat? Neither of those beats were pop to me. I couldn't see Taylor Swift using them for her album.

Money Trees "they say Halle Berry, or Hallelujah"... That shyt's pop, my nikka! Like some Nelly shyt. Just way worse.

You wilding right now. I get what you saying and all...it just never hit me like that.
Worse than Nelly

 

[Ohene]

yeah it is, which is why most rap albums of the golden era aren't even in the top 100 of the best albums of all time. shyt is too dusty

HA! That is due to cultural biases and the nostalgia of whoever makes these lists though.

Rank these songs from dustiest to most sonic






And then rank them to tell me whats most likely to be in a top 100 list. Mind you those are all multiplatinum albums


I can show you a Beatles album that is WAY fukkin dustier than some of my favourite rock/metal albums. shyt that instrumentally is much better...but you wont here me saying that they're better for that simple fact. And neither would you. So what gives?

 

[Harry B]

your right, but theres still a reason it was golden

i mean run the jewels over the infamous or cuban linx?

It is laughable to me too, but if you didn't get into ob4cl until recently and just got into rtj I can feel him.

It also has to do with taste, we often forget that music is completely subjective. The lyrics from those albums might move him while ob4cl doesn't. And he might just be a fan of music with lyrics that move you.

 

[Nuuko]

your right, but theres still a reason it was golden

i mean run the jewels over the infamous or cuban linx?

its his own list though so there's nothing wrong with that if he likes it better.

 

[hex]

It's an awful list, but what makes this guy an authority on hip hop in the first place?

This is a fair question, but this is the same site that dikk rides a 75 year old politician from Canada because hs stans Drake. It's a new day.

Fred.

 

[ORDER_66]

Got tupac on the list...

 

[the cac mamba]

its his own list though so there's nothing wrong with that if he likes it better.

nah like i said, you cant be wrong about an opinion

this is just the closest ive ever seen someone come to doing that

 

[Nuuko]

Brad Thibeau
@jackJack, when you look at the payments ecosystem and the direction it's heading away from the traditional card market and into a more NFC based style....what do you see Square looking like in 5 years?

and since you double up as a great CEO at two companies, I want to double up on a second question . How do you view the importance of Twitter's API and third party developers as parts of Twitter's long term growth? As it stands right now, it seems any program or apps outside of twitter that look to help improve the user experience get shut down rather quickly. Will that change in the future?

Lastly, Good Kid" M.A.A.D City or To Pimp A Butterfly?

Thank you and happy holidays!

-Brad



Jack
@thibeaub12great questions. Our leading principle at Square is to enable sellers to accept any form of payment that comes across the counter. That way they always make the sale! Our new reader enables both NFC and EMV sales, where the world will be for the next 10. And what other services can we offer to help them make more sales? Square Capital is a great example of this, investing directly into our sellers to grow. On Twitter API, we need to do a lot more around the API. And why choose between the two Kendrick masterpieces?!